She may be pregnant...

[airrazr7]

So my girlfriend may be pregnant. We usually use condoms, but the last two times we didn't have any. I pulled out and she is on birth control but still. Birth control isn't 100% and there is per-ejaculation. She hasn't gotten her period yet and she was supposed to get it. she said she saw a sign of it, but nothing yet.

We are both pretty freaked out now. We have been dating for over a year and love each other very much. But we are not ready for a kid at all. I'm 20 she is 19. I work an ok job, her, not so much. And we both still live with our parents.

I just don't know what to do. We wont be able to do tests until a few weeks. and there still might be a chance she will get her period. I'm just freaking out.
I don't even know how we would break it to her parents. Her dad would probably kill me.

[Mashedpoturtles]

make sure you didnt get pregnant too, ive seen it happen in that movie with arnold

[airrazr7]

i little bit of a smile, good try

[PeepPoopPip]

damn, whos gonna get pregnant next?

Just don't pull a Trey and you'll be fine. If abortion is legal were you are that's a choice, if not adoption is a choice. If not, it looks like you need to start looking for a better job.

edit: shit, noticed you live in Georgia. In which case, abortion is not an option unless you want to take a drive to New York... always got adoption or raising the evil little thing.

[poeticas]

make sure you didnt get pregnant too, ive seen it happen in that movie with arnold

He did not get pregnant that way ! u watson kun watch the movie again "

damn, whos gonna get pregnant next?

Just don't pull a Trey and you'll be fine. If abortion is legal were you are that's a choice, if not adoption is a choice. If not, it looks like you need to start looking for a better job.

edit: shit, noticed you live in Georgia. In which case, abortion is not an option unless you want to take a drive to New York... always got adoption or raising the evil little thing.

Man abortion is killing ... Even if u can escape pregnancy and hardships to come it doesn't mean it will not affect the girl ... U know that abortion causes physical conditions to ? and she may not have kids later ... abortions aren't 100% like they say they are.... That is why they give you the damn PAPER to write ur naime on it which says DO YOU AGREE... Press YES if you agree and u do not know what may happen after abortion or PRESS NO on which way u will have an Child to take care which will be a hardship all the way till the child is atleast 16 ... and then the PUBERTY kicks in...


Best way is to go PRIEST Class ...

[airrazr7]

abortion and adoption are not going to happen, we would take care of it

[marcipaans]

If the earliest possible abortion is killing then fapping is mass murdering.
6 weeks in, do abortion. You are not killing a baby. You are killing an embryo. A sperm looks more alive at that point.

You complain how you are not ready for a kid, still not able to financially support yourselves and overall in deep shit if that kid hits the floor then why do you insist on screwing your own lives?
Sounding like an stereotypical obese American who sits at McDonald and complains how fat and miserable he is while mowing down the 5th Big Mac.

[Darc]

Well, I wouldn't worry much - IF you pulled out in time. Precum doesn't contain sperm several studies show, most of the times pulling out isn't done in time and therefore babies. Which is why pulling out shouldn't be a contraceptive method anyway in the first place.

Anyway, she's on the pill right? For how much time and does she ever forget to take it? Well, if she's using it PERFECTLY there's an average of failure that's borderline impossible. Less than 1%. As in you have less than 1% chance of getting pregnant if you have sex 100 times during the course of one month while only on the pill. Now let's add the figures that if indeed a egg was released it only lives 24 hours along with your sperm that lives on average double of that.

Do keep in mind you should wear condoms anyway if you don't want any scares.

Her period being late could be a number of things, stress of being pregnant will only do her worse. I was in a much worse situation, my girlfriend wasn't on the pill, the condom broke, I ejaculated inside and the morning after pill has a lesser success rate. It was frightning, and her period only came much later than usual. So severe she skipped a month.

Piece of advice too, if you're mature enough to have sex you're mature enough to have to handle every situation. Think about that next time you skip on a condom and the pill.

[gratscorpio]

How are adoption agencies hell holes? Are they that bad in Europe? Where I am from they do a damn good job helping the kids find loving families...the only one they have problems with are the kids who are thrown in after the biological parents die and no one takes them in, but yeah your right not even getting the chance to live is much better than the possibility of being placed into a kind and caring family environment any day right? Oh wait never mind you must be right kill the little ****er now cause they cause all sorts of hell! Like forcing the people to mature up and accept responsibility for what they did! Oh wait that's terrible to yup kill it now shove a little tube up that ***** and kill that little hell hole ****er!

Also it's funny how people support abortion but not the death penalty? I mean it makes perfect sense to kill off the little hell raising bastard before they get a chance to breath, but to kill the man who tied 37 people to a chair and brutally murdered them? That is just plain wrong!


There is no excuse for it but what should I expect from the new generation where the government force feeds the notion that you are not responsible for your own actions? Got pregnant? no problem abort it! Got laid off cause you flunked out of high school, no problem go on welfare and have the other hard working people pay for your easy life!


scorpio

[zipykido]

It's probably nothing. Could just be a hysterical pregnancy. Also the pill is only 99% effective if you take it at the same time every day. Hormones can be so finicky that forgetting or taking it at different times every day can reduce its effectiveness. Anyway, get both sets of parents on board if it does turn out to be a pregnancy and I'm sure if they're not total jackasses they'll help take care of the child.

[Orpheus]

For a moment there I thought this would be another TreyTrey thead and was like "Seriously?".

Oh, and false or psychological pregnancy is rare, so if we are talking about probabilities here, it's probably something.

[supe]

[Hizumi]

I'm the father

[Ronin]

@scorpio
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levi...alized2001.pdf

Have fun reading

Adoption and Forster homes simply can't replace a family. There are also not enough Forster homes out there. The state intervention, when your parents can't take care of you, because your parents are unemployed junkies only lifts you to the minimum wage alcoholic niche in your own life, so to speak.

[PeepPoopPip]

isn't it not even considered alive/living in the first trimester? I just think it's funny that pro-lifers tend to be pro-death penalty

I would say a bacteria is more alive than a firs trimester, but **** bacteria.

[M1nGs3N4yuk1]

If she is taking the pill everyday and correctly then the chances of not getting pregnant is 99.9% even if you were to ejaculate inside of her. The only reason she will get pregnant is if she incorrectly takes it somehow. Taking it late will also heightens up the chances.

Furthermore, there is a thing called false pregnancy that is purely psychological but not very common in humans. Still, there is a chance she might be going through that.

All I can recommend is that she take a pregnancy test to see if it's valid. Depending on what state you live, you can get an abortion. Planned Parenthood charges an abortion pill for about ~400 USD.


Source: My two friends have sex all the time and the girl is on birth control. He ejaculates inside of her quite often and she still hasn't been pregnant for a little over a year now.


Safer sex requires you to have an understanding of how birth control pill works. You should go to some health websites and check it out.

[Akeras]

Is it just me, or is hian very good at shutting down most arguments very quickly?

[PeepPoopPip]

Is it just me, or is hian very good at shutting down most arguments very quickly?

He's alright.....>_>

[DarkAztaroth]

I vote hian today~'

I personally think it's better to stop the birth of something before its born than to actually let it come to life and suffer for no reason.

Who cares if it's a process that has been started already to create life.

If I had a big *** cancer on me developping into a human baby that made me sick, hurted me and that I would actually have to take care of afterward ?... I would sure as hell kill it while it still doesn't have a functionning brain and that it is not actually living.

It's not alive yet, so killing it is not gonna hurt it. Consider living people's happiness before considering the dead thing. If it would come to life anyway, it would probably not be in the best conditions. And what if the woman dies while having the baby, is that a good thing too ?.

Also for every living humans, how many animals do we kill ? If you think we can't kill a thing that's not even alive, why do you eat meat ?


Anyway, overall, her decision, if she thinks she can give it an happy life, good, if not.... well, buttf*** it.

[hian]

Life starts when you **** up and knock her up, funny how that's how were all here? Yes she should unless it will kill her or she was *****. Why? She ****ed up time to own up to their (it does take two after all) mistake, but i guess taking responsibility for your mistakes doesn't make sense now and days?

Having an abortion is one way of taking responsibility, even if you can't see that.

Bringing a life into this world if you're not prepared or qualified to take care of it, is the very definition of being unresponsible. It's like handing a candy to a baby only to take it back after a few seconds, and then shitting in its face.

Here's life, now go have a horrible time.

A monkey you attached to me? Is that monkey half me and her? Will it grow up to resemble me/her in some manor? Will it look at me as a father/mother?

Completely irrelevant. At the end of the day, the point is that if you find yourself with a foreign life-form dependant on your body for survival, it's up to you whether you want to support that life form or not - it's nobody elses business.

Yes I am aware the worlds overpopulated there are better ways to control population other than abortion, but i'll admit maybe abortion is the best way because the rest require people to use their brains. So yeah maybe it would be asking to much for people to consider the consequences of their actions instead of ****ing like pigs and killing off all potential offspring.

The fact of the matter is that hardly anyone uses abortion as a contraception - it's a last way out when you're out of options, and out of luck.

Just because some people are dumb enough to have unprotected sex, and make babies despite not wanting them, does not somehow mean we should punish them by forcing them to give birth, and then punishing that child by having it grow up as an unwanted child.

Yes I do eat meat and yes I do live in a city does me being a live mean the death of some stupid *** cow in a field? Probably and I could care less about other life forms they are not human and have no chance of ever being human.

And that makes you a hypocrite, because it means that you judge others for not holding the same standard of life as you, even though you perfectly admit to your standard of life being completely arbitrary, and go on the defense when people criticize you for it.

Never said woman owes anyone the right to give birth, well besides the new life form they started creating in themselves.

This sentence is self-contradictive - the embryo cannot speak, think or demand anything of it's mother - in fact the embryo is dependant on the mother and as such, at total mercy of the mothers whims.

I.E which means you are infact saying that the mother owes to it you to give birth, as you are the one making the argument against abortions, and as such projecting yout values unto others. Embryos don't have any values, as they aren't conscious beings.

How and where does the government do this? Look around you at least by me more than a quarter of the people live off welfare checks while the job market is still going strong? What kind of message does this send? Yes the government even helps with abortions two girls in my high school got free abortions from free clinics that get special tax treatment. Indirect support is still support one of them even got it done twice, because she apparently didn't learn from her mistake the first time. (she was a massive ***** go figure)

Handing out welfare and helping people do abortion is not the same as advocating it. You're officially clueless as to how society works. Both of these instance are examples of the government intervening and helping individuals in need of it.

That somehow most people are lazy and leech off of government money, or that the government is somehow pushing girls into having abortions instead of using contraceptions, is unsubstantiated bullshit myths spread by batshit right-wingers who think the world is going down the toilet because christiant values are losing grip in society - Statistics say the opposite btw.

Never said the adoption system was 100% perfect but it sure is a hell of a lot better than death, are there problem children yes there are does that mean they all are? No, it doesn't mean they all are but screw it those 2 kids are bad apples the whole system must suck.

And I would agree with you, if the embryo being aborted was capable of understanding this. Of course life is better than death, if you're already conscious.
Embryos are not conscious and cannot make this distinction, and therefore whether they are "alive" or "dead"(depending on definition) makes no difference whatsoever.

When you abort, you're not killing a baby, or a conscious life - You're killing a lump of brainless cells, which amounts more or less to cutting off a finger, or hitting yourself in the head a couple of times.

So, the question looks as following : Do we allow these cells to form into a conscious being capable of suffering, or do we abort it before, and save it from all possible suffering?

So yeah I guess my ideals are a little pie in the sky as it requires people to think before ****ing everything that moves and i'll admit that will never happen.

No, your ideals are pie in the sky because it denies the entire female part of the human race one of it's most basic human rights - namely the freedom to do as they please with their own bodies.

It's pie in the sky because you're holding an opinion that amounts to you thinking you can force others to act as you please based on your personal sense of morality.

While I have a strong dislike for the abortion option I will support peoples choice to do it (hence why I never said make it illegal even gave several cases I have no problem with it at all), but it should be a last resort option and lets face it most people it is not a last resort option they just flip the old kill switch and begin ****ing like pigs again with no thoughts of the consequences of their actions.

And here you're lying, as in your previous post you stated explicitly:

"Other than imminent death to the woman (and or a ****) abortion should be illegal."

And no, in most cases it's not in most cases, "hey just flip the old kill switch and begin ****ing like pigs again with no thoughts of the consequences of their actions."


This just goes to show how little you know about this subject, and that you're an idiot who buys into the completely inane, verbal shitfest of "pro-lifers".

To most girls, abortion is a harsh process - a tough choice as the result of a lot of doubts and insecurities, followed by more doubts and insecurities, and in many cases depression.
Most people go through with it, because they simply cannot imagine the alternative. They do not want one, and they simply cannot stand the thought of going through the pregancy only to give birth to a child that is unwanted.

The fact that you go out of your way to paint this group of people black, to me, is petty and low as hell. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Ronin]

The real question here fellows:
What if you can keep the monkey...

and posession also grants you a lifelong tax break?

[PeepPoopPip]

To avoid me saying what? The fact that the embryo was aborted from a human.....

Also pigs and chimps share a very close genetic structure to humans. So based on that the human would either be number 5, 7 or 8 from the left side as their progression is closer to each other than the rest by the second line. The first two are obviously fish of some kind as they look like tad polls as for the rest I couldn't comment.

but

"Im pro life" (your words not mine) no way I could of known this must and there is no way I could possibly know how the world works so..

lolz idk number one! (does that fit the sterotype of pro life you have lumped me into?)


Also avoiding what? Your the only one that has mentioned trimesters I never mentioned trimesters I merely stated that I found the option to be on the immoral side. In terms of the abusers of the option, seeing as how its not a black/white situation I find people who deeply consider it to be okay but those revolving door patients sicken me.


So why are you avoiding the discussion about the flawed moral structure that allows repeat abuse of the abortion option to cover up ones own mistakes? Oh wait nvm I guess I am just avoiding the topic by stating my current beliefes and why I came to them so carry on.


scorpio


p.s Sense you posted the pic you obviously know which one is human so how did you find out? I am gonna guess google and or some low level class cause if you were a geneticist you wouldn't be cruising onrpg.com.

edit: eh **** it.

[poeticas]

I think I may have brain worms cause I cannot tell if anyone is trolling on this site anymore or not.

Well that is what we all have achieved over such looooong years...

[airrazr7]

Crisis adverted!!
We are clear, no baby is coming.

[Deimos]

Won't get pregnant unless you actually plan to.

what they were doing will never get anyone pregnant, even without contraceptives