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    Default Consensus seems to be NWNO is pay to win like Forsaken World :/

    sad.. dunno why NWNO follows Forsaken World's model.
    If you want to respec your character you need to pay $6.
    Whereas other games let you respec for free.
    Why did they follow FW's inferior model when other games have a proven proper F2P model?

    http://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comme...e_you_kidding/

    disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenvoo View Post
    sad.. dunno why NWNO follows Forsaken World's model.
    If you want to respec your character you need to pay $6.
    Whereas other games let you respec for free.
    Why did they follow FW's inferior model when other games have a proven proper F2P model?

    http://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comme...e_you_kidding/

    disappointing.
    well you can start from scratch for free

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    Doesn't PWE have a hand in Neverwinter?

    If so it would not shock me.

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    I'm sure it's not that bad, yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masteralakdan View Post
    well you can start from scratch for free
    is your avatar your girlfriend or maybe you? not bad.. not bad at all...


    ah well, i guess NWNO has the right to do what it wants. in other sad news, i was playing SWG Emu and i found out they will have a fuull character wipe before final launch in about 1yr+ away. so i may not play it much now :/

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    NW's cash shop is a joke atm, im just playing to complete all story lines quests and then im gone, not gonna spend a dime in that game, not worth it.
    Not gonna feed a money hungry company that demands money for doing everything, just "stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid! <high pitched gay voice if i could make those>"

    And wtf is up with their auction house, searching for items seams off and just a real stupid made system and why cant they just use normal in-game money?
    I've only spend my in-game money (gold) on 1 mount and a companion, atm it feels like collecting money in the game have no value at all, more then buy potions, but that you dont really need unless your pve at some points if you r not good at avoiding enemy's,

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    PWE does it again lol.

    Probably the main reason I'll never touch a PWE game again.

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    Wish I had taken the time to check the game out and contribute my thoughts. As such all I have is the unenthusiastic attitude of Cryptic's head at PAX East to base my bias on. I'm all ears to listen to this debate.
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    You can get ingame currency for cash shop currency. DELETE this stupid post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prettietim View Post
    You can get ingame currency for cash shop currency. DELETE this stupid post.
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND here we go again.


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    a perfect world game that's pay to win? say it's not so!

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    this game is garbage. /thread


    no really, PWE has, and will continue to ruin it lol.
    if you want a good game, go play tera or something of the like where the cash shop doesnt ruin the game for anyone who deosnt pay real money.

    also, soon as i saw you require astral diamonds to run the auction house, i instantly alt f4'd and uninstalled. never again will i try a PWE game.

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    Auction house with diamonds only ... Cash shop NPC ingame ... Tarmalune trade bars NPC from which you get those from lockboxes which you need to buy a key from the cash shop . Idiots who overprice items in the auction or just leave it for BID only and you get the item after 4 days when your lvl is way passed the item you wanted and you wont need it anymore .


    Some of the small things that pisses me off about the game .


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    Guys just go and play LoL Kinda weird how no1 is complaining about lol while still buying so muc rp and spending money xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzmaster View Post
    Guys just go and play LoL Kinda weird how no1 is complaining about lol while still buying so muc rp and spending money xD
    The only complain there is that they wont lift my perma ban lol.

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    U have 10000 smurfs why u need a lift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzmaster View Post
    Guys just go and play LoL Kinda weird how no1 is complaining about lol while still buying so muc rp and spending money xD
    not.even.comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OooRangee View Post
    Ye, it's not like you can get, what was it 23k? or 32k diamonds MAX a day. And you need about 500k for something decent end-game based.
    You don't need 500k for endgame stuff. The Epic items can go up to 500k, but that's because people don't know how to price them. My guess is that it be 100k tops at one point.

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    PW didn't make the game.

    You can get everything by simply playing the game.

    This thread is is fact ******ed as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksin View Post
    You don't need 500k for endgame stuff. The Epic items can go up to 500k, but that's because people don't know how to price them. My guess is that it be 100k tops at one point.
    This, because the game is relatively new everything is going to be stupidly high priced since no one knows the actual value of anything. Give it a month or so and it'll drop down to low values, especially since you can't get endgame items with diamonds but through seals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsWind View Post
    So I read through this thread, and realize that a bunch of you must be kids or be broke, or kids who are broke. Because paying some cash for a game isn't really a big deal. I liken it to going out on a weekend, paying for cover, shots/drinks at the bar, and cab fare is usually aorund $80-$150 every night out. If I stay home I saved that money, so spending say, $50 on a game that night still means I didn't spend as much as I would going out. Staying home for a weekend and spending $200 means, according to my budget, I saved money.

    Stop complaining and just don't play the game.
    Close, I'm 29, almost 30 years old. I don't care about spending money in a game. I care about spending money in a game for something that should never cost money. Big difference. I just don't understand how anybody can support a decision for a $6 respec. There are so many great f2p models that are successful and financially viable. Tera, Path of Exile, Dota 2, TF2, and they went this route. This might have been acceptable 2-3 years ago, when f2p models weren't around much except the korean grinders, but now I expect better, and so should you.

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    The only intrusive cash shop item I've found so far is to get a respec, other than that I have no real issues with how the cash shop is handled. Bag space is a little limited but I have yet to actually run out of space so quickly that it bothered me. The bank is a little too limited for my taste but not so bad that it detracts from the game, and if I manage to enjoy the game enough that I play it for a week or two I'll more than likely buy a size upgrade, that or save diamonds and do it for free. Mounts are expensive but they aren't a necessity, just a convenience, and you get a free companion at level 16 that is good enough to last most of the game, at which point you can diamond a new companion or actually purchase a good one, which if you actually enjoy the game to want to do serious raiding with anyway I think the game deserves 5 bucks from you.

    Crafting has lots of cash shop items but very few of them are cash shop exclusive, most can be found through skill checks, and the ones that require cash shop exclusive items aren't so much stronger than normal items that it makes a huge difference. Of course fusions for enchantments have the standard F2P rules with buying wards to protect them from breaking, but you only lose a single item at a failed fusion, not the whole stack, so it's not like you lose everything anyway.

    So no, I don't find the cash shop in this game to be that bad. Other than respec costs I think the game is perfectly fair.

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    I agree with you Sutasafai, that their cash shop isn't horrible, besides the respec. They are pretty close to getting it right. I think some items are slightly overpriced, but I don't have an issue with most things in the cash shop. Respecs though, I just can't ever like that idea. Especially in a game with PvE and PvP. If I respec 3 times a month, that's more than a subscription based MMO. Yes, I know you can buy Zen with AD in game, but it's hard not to look at that with a monetary value.

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    problem with people they dont want pay they just want everything hand to them without use there money. Respc your character nothing new nexon does that all the time they give you free Repec event and rusty hearts online.



    here list game that does that

    Champions online
    rusty hearts
    raiderz
    mabinogi
    dungeon fighter
    dragon nest
    vindictus


    all this game have pay respec it nothing new. if you screw up on your character then delete it do it over if you think $5 is alot.


    neverwinter is best sandbox mmorpg for questing and making dungeon alot mmorpg dont do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoJaz View Post
    problem with people they dont want pay they just want everything hand to them without use there money. Respc your character nothing new nexon does that all the time they give you free Repec event and rusty hearts online.



    here list game that does that

    Champions online
    rusty hearts
    raiderz
    mabinogi
    dungeon fighter
    dragon nest
    vindictus


    all this game have pay respec it nothing new. if you screw up on your character then delete it do it over if you think $5 is alot.


    neverwinter is best sandbox mmorpg for questing and making dungeon alot mmorpg dont do that.
    Pretty much. But that list is endless... 99% of the games I've played required that you pay money for a respec... Be it $10 or even $20 dollars. Now these new f*gs cry over far less.

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