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    Default [Mabinogi] Community Manager saying something out-of-line.

    In the video posted below this paragraph, the Community Manager (Sabina) of Mabinogi was in a stream with a stream presenter from MassivelyTV. Nonetheless, the stream was a poor taste in quality and entertainment to most people. However, it was one certain comment that was mentioned in the stream that has a bit of the community upset over the fact of this comment mentioned. Here's the video showing that section of the stream:

    In my personal opinion, whether it's suppose to be a joke or not--that's not really the atmosphere to be joking around about such material. Especially with a Community Manager, that such position should have quite a bit of knowledge about the game itself. "Fashiongi" is a term referring to people that rather stay on the game, become a fashionista, and hardly do anything, but stand around in a massively-populated area and look pretty. Understand that a Community Manager might not have much time outside of work to play or enjoy the game, but still... at least know about the game itself. I expected higher standards from the Community Manager and to know quite a bit about the game, but sadly--those standards were shattered after that comment.

    What's also bad about this situation--Nexon, the Mabinogi Team, and the forum moderators are doing everything in their power to delete any negative criticism and censor people's opinions about the stream. They're deleting the threads, locking them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're banning people from criticizing the stream's poor taste. Finest taste of censorship from a company that has no backbone to take criticism.

    Anywho, your thoughts on this?

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    Im sure it was a joke and i see nothing wrong at all with what she said it was funny and im sorry but its still people are butt hurt over it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodedSkyline View Post
    In the video posted below this paragraph, the Community Manager (Sabina) of Mabinogi was in a stream with a stream presenter from MassivelyTV. Nonetheless, the stream was a poor taste in quality and entertainment to most people. However, it was one certain comment that was mentioned in the stream that has a bit of the community upset over the fact of this comment mentioned. Here's the video showing that section of the stream:

    In my personal opinion, whether it's suppose to be a joke or not--that's not really the atmosphere to be joking around about such material. Especially with a Community Manager, that such position should have quite a bit of knowledge about the game itself. "Fashiongi" is a term referring to people that rather stay on the game, become a fashionista, and hardly do anything, but stand around in a massively-populated area and look pretty. Understand that a Community Manager might not have much time outside of work to play or enjoy the game, but still... at least know about the game itself. I expected higher standards from the Community Manager and to know quite a bit about the game, but sadly--those standards were shattered after that comment.

    What's also bad about this situation--Nexon, the Mabinogi Team, and the forum moderators are doing everything in their power to delete any negative criticism and censor people's opinions about the stream. They're deleting the threads, locking them, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're banning people from criticizing the stream's poor taste. Finest taste of censorship from a company that has no backbone to take criticism.

    Anywho, your thoughts on this?
    what is this? are you stupid?
    I just,wow, how can you be this stupid ?

    for others she said 'I'm a fashionogi, I dont know anything about the game' quite clearly that was a joke. I would understand a racist remark or a bigot, but this? ****ing laughable

    MABINOGI IS SANDBOX GAME. PEOPLE PLAY IT DIFFERENTLY FROM YOU OR I.

    Take this, whatever this is? and GFTO.
    TY

    Also of course they are deleting threads, this not even a issue, its so stupid.It's spam.
    There are other problems nexon have, and this forum knows, but this? ..lol

    But thanks for posting, not had a good laugh at people over the interwebs in ages.

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    Of course! pick out the grammar! It's ok, I don't care, too busy laughing

    EDIT: so what if people treat it like Gaia online? what is it to you? I bet you're one of those people who weekly RB and think they're pro.
    I wont reply. just watching you making a fool out of yourself is enough. Thanks, again!
    Hows, my gammar, now any good? ????


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    What's your point?

    If anyone is legitimately annoyed over this... just wow.

    A lot of people play Mabinogi for the clothes btw. There's a ton of dye and clothing options, the options are limitless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitey View Post
    Of course! pick out the grammar! It's ok, I don't care, too busy laughing

    EDIT: so what if people treat it like Gaia online? what is it to you? I bet you're one of those people who weekly RB and think they're pro.
    I wont reply. just watching you making a fool out of yourself is enough. Thanks, again!
    Hows, my gammar, now any good? ????

    I think the problem the so called "pros" have with the "fashionogi" and the other way around is the fact that fashionogi was used as a phrase to describe the stuck up, snobby players who just sat around in dunbarton 24/7 doing nothing but talking down to people for not looking as pretty as them, and at the same time being crappy at the game itself.

    But at some point, some new wave of players started calling themselves "fashionogi" when they're just people who enjoy dressing up, and don't have any of those same traits. Thus, started taking offense when people mentioned "fashionogi" in a insulting way. It's pretty stupid

    And honestly, I personally never liked the whole fashionogi thing (the first type I explained). And no, I'm not "one of those people who weekly RB and think they're pro". Nice generalization. Ironically that was an argument used quite a lot by "fashionogis" against "pros"

    Also, I can kinda agree on mabinogi pretty much turning into gaia online. At least my server. I've played for 3-4 years, and the decline in people actually wanting to do things besides sitting around chatting is pretty huge. It's hard to find parties for anything besides daily shadow missions, economy is totally broken and things are literally priced at a "LOL, NEW SHINIES FROM GACHA"-rate, server is barren. This is pretty much why I quit.

    You know sadly, I can't see any new players flourishing on Tarlach anymore. Because the rude people usually scare them away, and they probably won't find people to help for most quests unless it involves a high exp reward

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    Community Managers Don't Have Time To Play The Game. At least that's what I find when I try to take the role seriously. I spend more time dying my clothes on Entropia than killing stuff. Does it mean that I don't have a right to participate in the community? I thought her joke was funny, but if it means firing her then you should also fire every Riot employee with less than Diamond rating.

    I already know that Nexon NA has poor customer support... Oh! I get it. Players want to give feedback and if the Community Manager doesn't know anything about the game then players cannot give feedback! Yes, that sucks. Was it Mabinogi that Nexon Korea stopped sending updates for at one point when Nexon NA had poor community management? The only time I've been upset with Nexon for Mabinogi was when they mass-banned all players who were rich including players who were rich because they had sold rare items (at inflated-prices) to gold-buyers. And that was like 3-4 years ago. I haven't been following the game since but I know I would spend all my time on making my avatar look pretty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Densetsu View Post
    I think the problem the so called "pros" have with the "fashionogi" and the other way around is the fact that fashionogi was used as a phrase to describe the stuck up, snobby players who just sat around in dunbarton 24/7 doing nothing but talking down to people for not looking as pretty as them, and at the same time being crappy at the game itself.

    But at some point, some new wave of players started calling themselves "fashionogi" when they're just people who enjoy dressing up, and don't have any of those same traits. Thus, started taking offense when people mentioned "fashionogi" in a insulting way. It's pretty stupid

    And honestly, I personally never liked the whole fashionogi thing (the first type I explained). And no, I'm not "one of those people who weekly RB and think they're pro". Nice generalization. Ironically that was an argument used quite a lot by "fashionogis" against "pros"
    But why do they annoy you? do you stand around dunbarton arguing with them? is there no ignore list? Who cares how people play THEIR game. Now I only get on when rl friends drag me one so I guess I miss it? The point is, if people want to stand around dunbarton Talking trashing about thier pixels ,why does it bother you so much you must give them the time of day. It's just sad.

    Nice generalization
    you're doing exactly that no? 'fashinogi: people standing around dunbaton arguing'

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    I think the moral of the story here is unless you play the game yourself you shouldn't be trying to twist other people's words or try to further a vendetta against a particular company. If you watched the whole video instead of just that bit where the person looped Sabina saying "I don't play the game, I just dye my clothes" out of context over and over then sure, you'd think it's true and Sabina is clueless. Heck, just the video itself is out of context, because we have no idea where the whole thing started.

    However, it's obvious she was joking and knew the connotations of "Fashionogi", that's why she said it. Community Managers and employees are people too. Are they not allowed to joke because of their position? Am I, for example, not allowed to post in threads and interact with people just because I have a green name and a Super Moderator tag, that I should just stay silent, never post, and silently lock/delete/issue warnings/ban people?

    The funny thing is, the people that play Mabinogi like Sabina BECAUSE she interacts with the community. How shocking that a community manager actually interact with the community.

    lets see how many people notice I said green name instead of purple and call me incompetent :P

    Highlighting this text or quoting me to see any hidden messages then doing it "for the lolz" doesn't count.

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    I want the 5 minutes of my life back that this thread just cost me, OP will eventually deliver


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    why are people even arguing over this?
    id love to play the game again, but we all know how nexon treats its customers so no thanks....

    EDIT
    just went to check the mabinogi EU website to see if their money grubber policy had changed..... turns out they closed the service down on 18th july heh.... but low population is what you get for ripping off people

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    people need to understand she only Community manager and follow what they tell her to do. she has no power over game most your working in forums don't really play the game they just work there. she mostly went and find job with community stuff they hired her. if you want to whine and cry talk to the Tech team they need to play there game more

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    So... No fun allowed in Mobinogi live streams? That must be dull. Looks like bottom pained factions taking their rage out on anyone that looks at them cross-eyed, and this CM happened to be an extremely open target.

    Also, how can these Fashionogi's kill Mabinogi if there's so many of them paying out of their pockets? Sounds like the community you knew and loved is being overtaken, hybridized and absorbed. Enjoy extinction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodedSkyline View Post
    Actually, that statement can be argued. Even though the game is evolving into the fashion community of Gaia Online, many people still plays the game to run dungeons and assist newbies. Sadly, because of the people with their mommy and daddy's credit cards and spoiled brats getting everything handed to them, via Gachapon, the economy broke underneath it. Many of the items that were worth a few million back in the day are now barely worth 100k~200k. Many of the high-end valued items today are Gachapon-only items and they can range from 5m~20m. Hell, there is one item that can be even worth 100m, because the dress is so rare to find.

    If anything killed Mabinogi, then blame the Fashiongis that went haywire in the marketplace.
    I played Mabinogi since beta (I don't anymore).

    The game didn't evolve into the fashion community, it has ALWAYS had a fashion community as well as people who focus on combat and other things.

    That's one of the beauties of the game. It offers something for a lot of different types of gamers, which is also why it has a lot more females than other MMORPGs.

    Anyway, you just seem intolerant of other people. I don't know what the rest of the Mabinogi community is saying about this "topic", but it sounds like you just don't like it because she doesn't play the game the same way as you. So it's wrong. Let people do their thing...

    and the economy is dead because of dupes and exploits, as far as I know. Not Gachapon.

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    fashinogis are similar to henehoes / nxhoes in maple story

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    Does it really affect you?

    I never got why hardcore players would be offended by casual/chat players in any game. like, how dare you not enjoy the game the way I want you to.

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    well played

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    People seem to give a F╬ck
    Interesting.

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    To give a fvck about this your life must truly be awful.

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    I can't even begin to understand how stupid you have to be to take that comment seriously.

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    To be honest, it kind of makes me upset that people would try to derive some sort of drama from this joke. It tells a lot about you as a person. People that get annoyed over joke comments like this, and get all uppity about how they think someone doesn't take their job seriously because of crap like this, and even try to get a person fired because of it, are also the kind of people that grow up to be soccer moms/dads. They have so little meaning in their life they have to try and make themselves feel self-important by causing as much trouble as they can - by trying to claim that other people are the ones causing trouble. You're also the kind of people that make themselves seem stupid to try and prove their point in an argument, "How am I supposed to know it's a joke? I'm just an average consumer and I don't have time to figure out this person is just making a joke about how they don't know about hte game they work for?"

    If this were a real problem, and she honestly did not give a shit about the game and when she does play she just sits around and insults players or something, it would be an issue. However, you have not provided any proof of this. All you have done is include ONE video with ONE PIECE of dialogue. You do not have any other sort of proof to tell us that this should be an issue. You are trying to make us believe that someone should be in trouble for one line they said on a livestream that was, as far as anyone on this forum or anywhere else knows, a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodedSkyline View Post
    I expected higher standards from the Community Manager and to know quite a bit about the game, but sadly--those standards were shattered after that comment.
    Her job (if she even gets paid) is that of community manager.
    Her job is to relay developer info. Essentially a human walkie talkie.
    In what way she plays the game is seriously less relevant than her skin colour.

    Since none of the haters caught it either, I'll point it out.
    Male: Are you saying *gasp* I'm a fashinogi?
    *The CM realises that calling labelling fashionogis as crap would cause a shit-stir*
    CM: No, *lol*, I'm a fashionogi too! ^____^
    *Every fat mabinogi nerd get their imported panties in a twist*

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    This thread was the highlight of my day. Granted it's an awful day so it didn't take too much to hit this point. But ty all.

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    Way off topic here, but... How is the games population in terms of numbers? xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsuarikado View Post
    Way off topic here, but... How is the games population in terms of numbers? xD
    Good, game has some flaws though+not the best publisher. I play it off and on.
    My main gripe in-game are strong-skill quests. They're not any fun and are done in just a dumb as **** way imho. You gather pages from random ass targets. Not all of them are like this mind you, but a lot of the almost mandatory skills are.
    Doesn't help that the pages expire, so their market price is sooo annnoooyyiinngglllyyyy high.

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