credit card fraud

[Ronin]

I don't see any kind of fraud in this, but she hopefully stopped using that paypal imediately.

Technically the one liable for fraud looks more like the dad to me.
Also you don't get arrested on such things, an arrest can only happen on the chances of a flight-risk, risk of cover-up, or risk of repetition.
They can close the card, so the danger of repetition is gone, she won't run and she won't be able to manipulate the banks transaction details or such and since all has been done verbally there is no other evidence to destroy.
Her lawyer sounds like a hack.

The situation is difficult though. She might be found guilty of unauthorized use of the CC. Maybe she will have to cover the payments she made, or something like that. Jail sounds ridiculous.

[Delamorte]

well, in the states anything spent over 500$ with out consent is a felony and can serve 5 to 10 years in jail, her family is claiming there was 0 consent, as well as filed a police report and are pressing charges, i know cops wont just show up and arrest that's not what i meant, i meant arrest on the conviction of found guilty.

Paypal closed her account September 12th, and she was finally contacted by poilce october 2nd.
she made purchases the last week of july, and partial of august and nothing since august.

im thinking that there's to much family drama to find her guilty, to much family intervention. Im just trying to put her at ease by finding other opinions. I also pointed out to her that they look at your potential to society when convicting and she shouldn't worry because of her 0 criminal record, has job, is attractive, and probably will not be viewed as a risk to society.

[Phenoca]

Don't sign anything. Putting your credit card info on your daughter's Paypal account doesn't sound like something you should have to sign anything for. How much money does the family owe her? Does this amount exceed 3,500? You make it sound like the family wants to make some money off her.

Who was the fraud phonecall from? What does her rights to family partnership have to do with using the credit card she was given? If the aunt gave the credit card to the father and the father input the credit card info into her paypal account then the aunt cannot sue the daughter for having that card on her paypal account. It is the father's issue and if the aunt wants to take her to court and she loses the trial then I assume she would pay $3.5k instead of going to jail.

Why is her lawyer saying she looks guilty? Where did she obtain the legal aid?

Paypal closed her account September 12th, and she was finally contacted by poilce october 2nd.
she made purchases the last week of july, and partial of august and nothing since august.

Paypal is a website used primarily for shopping with credit cards. The only fraud going on here is that the aunt probably got the $3.5k back from Paypal which means that the person selling things to the daughter is trying to sue the aunt. Were any of her purchases worth over $500?

[Ronin]

If they contacted authorities within 60 days and shut down the card, they are not liable for the money booked from the CC. That means that they have no claims against her. Her dealings would be with the CC-Bank who is the one who is still missing that money in this case. They can't actually extort her, but they will also not press unreasonable demands against her. However, the family is quite out of the picture.

Also if her lawyer thinks she is in trouble she most likely is. He just sounds like a hack, because he shouldn't let his clients wander of distraught and confused. A reason for his explanation that she sounds guilty, could be that her story isn't plausible or has contradictions. It's very important that she does not incriminate herself in such a way. If that happens in court, she won't be facing very lenient punishment.

[Delamorte]

I think the lawyer thinks shes guilty becuase her dad is also claiming he didnt put the card into paypal. I believe my friend is trustworthy and is telling me the truth that she just didn't take the card and do it herself. I also know she would never attempt theft even if she thought it was easy, I used to leave my cards and cash around her while we lived together its just hard to prove it to court. I told her to stress that she feels like its black mail due to her not signing over her rights to the family partnership shes in when the family tried to trick her into signing the rights over, which is still under investigation, which happend recently. The partnership she had no idea the full extent until july when they tried to trick her which made her seek more information and the family was supposed to give her money yearly, but pawned this off as a "Christmas gift" from an aunt, and was only a third of the lump sum.and they tried extortion by saying sign this paper and we will give you your share of the partnership which the amount of money they offered was only a years worth and not years and years of money they were hiding from her.