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    Default A small question concerning Saddam Hussein's case.

    As i've wandered around Www.Youtube.Com to find those Saddam Hussein's execution videos, I could find hundreds of comments such as " Serve him well!!", " It's a good thing this dictator dies" or " One less bad guy in this world!!"

    This drove me to wonder.

    Why do you guys feel righteous when a "bad" guy is executed or punished?

    Many would say " R.I.P. to those who were tortured by him or those who were victims" and some would express a form of joy watching a human die. Also, I've always know that human is a selfish being filled with greed and such. So why do you pretend it's a good thing he die? The victims aren't you nor close to you ( In any possible way, if you have access to Onrpg.com, I doubt you had a relative killed by his ORDERS. ) Therefore, when it's not about you in any possible way except "Omg! It's my country!!" then why are you even posting " YAY!! ANOTHER BAD GUY LESS IN THE WORLD!" ??

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    It's called 'Persona'.

    It means taking the perspective/"seeing it through another's eyes".

    Most people (Or I hope so) when they hear about something similar to the Saddam case take the persona of his victims, and the victims families. Thus feeling sorrow/pity.

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    You're right, almost everyone is happy that he's dead, I think youre one of the less people that isnt happy (I'm also not happy about it). Like, damn, why the hell are you happy about it? Like he has done something bad to you, I know lotsa people will flame with things like ''he killed lotsa ppl'' but I'm pretty much sure you dont even care about those Iraqi's (no offence) being killed.

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    Judging on both of your opinions, I guess your the sort that would walk past an old guy getting beat/mugged by some bum, and not taking any action =/

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    Well, Im not sure about you guys, but I do feel pity and sadness for the Iraqis. I think about how good I got it, and then I watch the news and see the hell they have to go through, and theres really nothing I can do about it right now. I honestly feel sick when I think of that.

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    Well, obviously I feel sorry for the Iraqui's as I feel sorry about all the people in the world dieing because they do not have food to eat. Every human with a bit of a heart feels sorry/sad for those situations as we would not want to endure the same.
    Sadam execution... Even if it is grotesque and something that shouldn't happen, he kind of deserved it. He killed loads of people(guess I am the one saying it) and never, ever felt sorry for it. He was laughing with a rope around his neck. Thats just sick, even more sick than his death. He died, and alot of people are saved (future victims of his reign of terror).

    He died, it's awful. Not good, not bad. The end.

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    There are two sides to every story and more so than not more sides than just the two.

    The western media is hardly going to show sympathy and unhappiness about Saddam's death as he was captured by us.
    Still, that doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. The Sunni's for example are not happy that Saddam was executed at all they think it was done out of revenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    As i've wandered around Www.Youtube.Com to find those Saddam Hussein's execution videos, I could find hundreds of comments such as " Serve him well!!", " It's a good thing this dictator dies" or " One less bad guy in this world!!"

    This drove me to wonder.

    Why do you guys feel righteous when a "bad" guy is executed or punished?

    Many would say " R.I.P. to those who were tortured by him or those who were victims" and some would express a form of joy watching a human die. Also, I've always know that human is a selfish being filled with greed and such. So why do you pretend it's a good thing he die? The victims aren't you nor close to you ( In any possible way, if you have access to Onrpg.com, I doubt you had a relative killed by his ORDERS. ) Therefore, when it's not about you in any possible way except "Omg! It's my country!!" then why are you even posting " YAY!! ANOTHER BAD GUY LESS IN THE WORLD!" ??
    They say that because its what they are misinformed about through History. Dictators, tyrants, communism like where saddam was is something that has ben going on in the world for thousands of years. Americans would most likley be the ones to post that kind of stuff on youtube, because we live in a goverment controlled by the people for the people under the united states of america, we dont live in a country with one person who controlls us.

    Because saddam was a tyrant a dictator he wanted things to be his way, just like hitler, he wanted power. Noticable to the world, he became like a second hitler. Killing people without any remorse or pity. His threats were not just to the us but to the world, because of his death things might calm down untill another sprites something.

    Personally i am glad he his dead. I hate and despise anyone who kills anyone without pity, he had no reason to kill anyone.

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    He had reason to kill. He killed for the same reason the Romans had cruxifiction. To show what would happen to those who tried to revolt. If you ask me Iraq seems to be in a worst state now than it was under Saddam, alot worse. Now everyone is trying to fight for the power and alot more people are dieing, tensions between the muslim sects are higher than ever and what is most likely to happen is civil war which would of never happened under Saddams rule.

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    An eye for an eye is NOT a suitable reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomSlap View Post
    Judging on both of your opinions, I guess your the sort that would walk past an old guy getting beat/mugged by some bum, and not taking any action =/
    Well, there's a few kind of people in this world.

    In a situation where an old guy is getting bullied by some unknown violet person. There would be around 4 kind of people.

    1- People who ty to be hero and jumps in. Ignoring they might get killed in some accidental actions.

    2- People who screams around and fall unconcious.

    3- People phoning the police immediately while letting the guy beat the other.

    4- People who doesn't want any more trouble in his life.

    I'm the 4th kind of person unless it's a friend of course. Like I said. When it's not me, I simply dont care much about it.

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    Bush is a bad leader; thats true, but it doesn't means he's doing to die. Some people hate Bush, but a larger group of people who voted like him, which is why he became our president for 2 terms. He has done some stupid things I'll admit, but although I'm angry at him, I'm just not likely to pull out a gun and shoot him.

    Saddam went on trial before he was killed. I doubt anyone in America would get Bush on trial for being a bad president. As for Arabs, I agree with Fieren, it's very unlikely that anyone will have the chance to kill him.

    But who knows? Maybe something will come up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon F. View Post
    Several kinds of people, but only one effect, known as the "bystander effect". It is difficult to imagine when not in that kind of situation, but the vast majority of times, a crowd (regardless of how heroic their intentions) will not get involved, and the larger the crowd the less likely. There are a variety of reasons, of course, from concern about personal safety, to assuming that someone else is calling the police so it's not necessary for them to do so... People have been ***** and killed in broad daylight.

    I'm not happy that Saddam was hung, but I can see why he was, and not necessarily because of his warcrimes, nor because of the fued between him and the Bush family. His execution was meant, I believe, to serve as a deterrant to insurgents and other leaders in the Middle East (such as the President of Iran), telling them, in essence, don't mess with the U.S. (ooh it rhymed). In my eyes, the death sentence serves no other purpose beyond a deterrant for anyone likeminded in anyway, anyone contemplating a similar act as the one the executed was sentenced for.

    When Hitler saw that the war was turning against him, he committed suicide, and thus died as a hero in the eyes of those who still supported him. This was actually a cleverer move than trying to continue running away and escaping custody insofar as his lasting image. We can remember Saddam as a war criminal who we tracked down and executed and thus justice was achieved, but it's not the same with Hitler. We still remember him as an absolutely cruel and horrible man who killed millions for the sake of his ideology, and we can say we won the war, but we can't that we actually got Hitler and sentenced him and got justice. No "justice", no deterrant. Now I sound like I'm stating facts, but don't get me wrong, this is more of an opinion, and not to drive this topic terribly off but I was wondering what others thought.
    I agree, except the problem here is that not many people know exactly why Saddam was a bad person. Most Americans just take the governments words, and understand that Saddam deserved to die. But not everyone knows just what type of things happened. Like you mentioned; with Hitler, although we won the war, it's citizens didn't really feel like they won because Hitler committed suicide. With Hitler, we all know he persecuted Jews, and he deserved to die, yet we were unable to get him.

    Although I am happy that Saddam is dead, I can't say that hanging was the best way to go.

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