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    Default Why does people dislike the idea of Cash Shops as payment

    What is the reason for all the hating about Cash Shops, I mean it makes the RPG generally F2P instead of P2P...

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    because it gives an advantage to a person who stole his moms credit card or asked for it*cough* and makes it unfair for others who cant afford it so yeah i dont like playing a game at my fullest and being able to match up to some guy who has a +2 mace or sumtin

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    i don't care if it's p2p or free, as long as it doesn't have cash shop, i play wow and it's p2p, i played anarchy online and payed for it p2p, but i would never play a game with cash shop, i mean that's just seriously ******ed, games where you have to pay to get a bigger advantage is just dumb in my opinion, it's either i pay and get the same advantage as the other or play free and everybody has the same advantage as me, no unfair items or anything else.

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    Because cash shops **** the economy of games.

    They completely ruin the point of actually playing the game and are only used by lazy asses that can't get along without.

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    Thats not true at all. MapleStory's cash shop actually doesn't even affect your charactor. All it does is make him look pretty (or ugly). I'm deffinatly not against cash shop because I don't have money to spare right now for P2P games, saving up for a new car =D.

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    Some item shop they sell Double Exp SCroll...


    or pots , good stuff wich is not fair




    I prefer p2p... with no item shop


    I seen p2p game with item shop.. is bullcrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Associated View Post
    Thats not true at all. MapleStory's cash shop actually doesn't even affect your charactor. All it does is make him look pretty (or ugly). I'm deffinatly not against cash shop because I don't have money to spare right now for P2P games, saving up for a new car =D.
    Well actually your a bit wrong there. Peple that get cashshop get an advantage since gach has items like earrings taht give dex and no earrings in Maple give dex. Also teh 7 slot wgs and so on. Seriosuly it used to be fair but now gach ruined it and any person who has tons of money to waste can get rich off selling those items.I agree taht sometimes cashshop ruines a game sice tehy can buy power ups for their chracters so tahts not fair like rakion

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    It depends.

    If the cash shop just does visual, non game-altering changes, like new costumes or a pet that doesn't really do anything but are just for looks, (i.e. the birthday pets in Guild Wars) then I could care less. However, when the cash shops are actually selling items that give a player an advantage, (i.e. experience scrolls, speed scrolls, potions, equipment, etc.) then it's not cool. I don't like it when I've been playing a game for months, and some other person owns my guy because he/she bought some godly equipment, when they've only been playing for a couple of days.

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    Simple, some people like an even playing field. Its just like people who say buying and selling in game cash should be allowed, imho it shouldnt be allowed because it gives the ones with a bigger budget a leg up on those that cant afford it.

    Everyone likes to be treated fairly.

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    i liked GTH's cashshop if any one still remember it, but i think there were only 2 items for sale lol

    its like you can buy this armor with super high def so weak monsters hit you like 2,5,10 or so but as you get stronger, the armor kinda gets useless becuz your normal armor is like almost as good as it so its only good for like lower lvls

    plus the armor has a time limit so it disappears after like 2-3months or so
    and you can sell them ingame..that is..if you want...but thats how i got to try them...

    i think the other item was like a super strong weapon or something i dont quite remmeber

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    Jealousy doesn't fit here. Since most of the arguments are from people who actually ARE playing P2P games (Myself subscribed to WoW/Vanguard, will do LOTRO as well when it comes out, probably Gods and Heroes also). So we know we can switch over if needed. Cash isn't the issue, it's the idea of the cash shop.

    Anyhow..if you're gonna pay for items in the cash shop anyway, what's the difference between that and paying for a P2P game? To me, buying items from cash shops that gives you an advantage than the otherwise "normal" player is kind of like buying Gold/Items off websites like IGE or eBay. Money isn't the issue, it's the whole idea of spending that money, getting yourself out the "easy" way.

    I understand why people would prefer cash shops game simply because they want to play the game for free though..and not buying anything from the cash shops.

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    nakaruma, you are either quite rich or you're not aware of what that costs :s. 4 p2p mmorpg's at the same time, that's like 40 euro's a month, how do you plan on affording that? and besides, what's the use in the first place?
    you'll be able to play these 4 games about 1 week each month (but you paid for a whole month). don't know, if you ask me that's exegerated.

    OT: what is wrong with cashshops? 'it gives players who have the ability to pay an advantage'? that's lame, of course they should have an advantage, you wouldn't cough up 10 euros to buy items in a cash shop that makes you no diffirent from any other free member?
    See it this way, peoiple who pay for p2p games have the advantage that they can acces the game while free members don't.

    and about little kids stealing their parents credit card. i don't know, you just think that happens but it seems quite unleikly. you ever payed with a credit card yourself? it's above all not straightforward and second, like his or her parents wouldn't know at the end of the month that they have expenses they don't know about, the adress of the recevier is also shown on your monthly bill record. You can't just shadow out an expense from visa or mastercard you know ...

    and to pay with it, they would need to have their parents paypal account.

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    40 euro seems to be a bit exaggerated but if it was 40 euro, that would be close to 100 dollars in australia . I have only spent $26 on a online game. I've been playing mmorpgs for 5 years now. The $26 was a lifetime payment too. I'll probably buy from cash shops if I really really like the game. (Perhaps RO2, Granado Espada and a few more) and that's only if it lasts forever. I may make exceptions.

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    Cash Shops and Item Malls are the " in " thing with Online games right now, so i say we go with the flow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clid21 View Post
    because it gives an advantage to a person who stole his moms credit card or asked for it*cough* and makes it unfair for others who cant afford it so yeah i dont like playing a game at my fullest and being able to match up to some guy who has a +2 mace or sumtin
    I must say the same thing

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    they are all the same to me. i rather go for cash shop because i don't have the time to play more than 5hrs a week atleast rather then paying monthly and rarely play the game. if i do have the time n money (use too much hanging out with friends), i would p2p. in the pass 12 month, i purchase 12 games and boy m i dissapointed with the console rpgs lately. they are mostly 30-40 hours long >_> wat happen to all the 60-80 hours long rpg T_T so far only the dragon quest n final fantasy series been keeping the rpg in the 60-80 hours range.

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    Because, as everybody else has said, it makes the game unfair.
    Some games have made cash shop items mainly for appearance and 'fun' for people who really like the game and don't mind donating to them.

    However, some games, such as rakion, have made it so people who pay have a huge advantage.
    Though I have no money problems and I have no problem paying for a game I like, I think it's dumb, they should just make the game p2p if cash shop items are going to outpreform normal ones. p2p does not mean it has to be around the going rate of 13 dollars a month, they can charge 2 dollars a month (because cash shop games are not p2p material), they'll lose players, but that means no non-payers using their servers, plus, it won't be as much of a player loss as making insane cash shop items.

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    If the game is P2P, people complain that they can't play the game due to credit card issues. Now, games are mostly going F2P with cash shops, and gamers complain that advantages are given to those who spend alot on cash items. Geez ... gamers nowadays just wanna be s****fed ...

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