thanx for ur replies everyone...and as for ferentus ive tried it in the past....it was oh so empty it was the loneliest mmorpg ive ever played lol, and with ragnarok online ive played that before but on a p. server and it was horrible i would get pk'd all the time they were bullies there i couldnt even level up lol, and with maple story i think im sick of that game leveling up was the worst and the community was actually kind of funny, ive never tried Final Fantasy XI although ive really wanted to try it, ive heard so many mixed reviews about it so i was never sure whether i should buy it or not