What's the deal America!

[cyber7chink]

I was just using CPUs as a example of how US is ahead of Korea and Japan in the computer tech... If you cant accept that they are then that's your prob..Theres also way more types of technology then just "Tech Toys"... Japan and Korea aren't ahead in every type of technology and thats a fact... Theres technology for Military, Space exploration, Medical fields, Software tech, and lots more.. I doubt Korea and Japan lead the way for every type of technology possible...

LMAO, we went from consumer tech to the stuff we rarely get to see and play with.

Can you keep with one subject? I dont think you can to make your arguement plausible.

Your examples were based on consumer technology. Thus my post was based on consumer technology. Your not looking very good now.

Your right, Korea and Japan are not ahead on everything, but your post is based on consumer tech. Please keep on your own topic track.

Now as I was saying, based on your original post about consumer tech, Korea and Japan are ahead of everyone else. That is a fact.

Weapons tech.... there is no one country ahead of another in this.
Medical tech.... Europe has a good lead.
Space technology... You would think its the US, but with innovations relating to space travel....please read up, you will be suprised...........
Software...... Well considering networking is 50% hardware and 50% software, you can consider Korea in one of the top spots. But, its really an even race with 3 countries.

More or less, your post was based on your pride. That will set you up for a failure almost everytime.


Consumer technology was what your post was based upon, this is were you failed.

[Trisomy]

AS mixed guy said. India roXX0rs. Sadly we havent made any Good games even with all the techo geeks living here. Im going to become a techno geek and make the UBEREST game ever.

No but really i am.

[cyber7chink]

@bubbaheads

Then you got the Korean MMO company that started it all, NCSoft. Even though they are the founders of the korean MMO market, they still hold the title of being #1 overall. Their titles take longer to make than most US MMOs, the quality of games are great, and they acheive their objectives with that title.

Care to explain their success and why they are still #1 if they create/publish "generic" MMORPGs, as you say all Korean developers/publishers do? Lineage 2, Lineage, Guild Wars (all 3), and City of Heroes/Villains all have won many gaming awards in the US and other countries.

Yes, Lineage 2 is a somewhat grindy game, but it never took me 2 weeks to level up. Even past the double digits, it took me less than a week to raise a single level. Either you never played the game, or dont know how to level.

@mixedguy206

Why give credit to the US, when you and many others want to do is give them praise for false accomplishments? Thats is true.

If you want to blame Korea for flooding the market with generic games, then your actually blaming the US. If you want to blame Japan for having things before you, blame the US. Like I said, if US didnt give releif to certain countries or enforce certain import/export laws after WWII then we would not be having this argument.

Now for giving credit to the US for something, I wont..... The US is a mixure of other countries. So, in truth, its another country's people who deserves the credit. And disrespecting another contry for their contributions shows your failure to have faith in the US.

Now for the little post about US weapons technology, who contributes to that? I know one part of that quote is contributed to a well known foreigner. Without him, the US would not have been in their position, today.

[mixedguy206]

@bubbaheads

Then you got the Korean MMO company that started it all, NCSoft. Even though they are the founders of the korean MMO market, they still hold the title of being #1 overall. Their titles take longer to make than most US MMOs, the quality of games are great, and they acheive their objectives with that title.

Care to explain their success and why they are still #1 if they create "generic" MMORPGs, as you say all Korean developers/publishers do?

Yes, Lineage 2 is a somewhat grindy game, but it never took me 2 weeks to level up. Even past the double digits, it took me less than a week to raise a single level. Either you never played the game, or dont know how to level.

@mixedguy206

Why give credit to the US, when you and many others want to do is give them praise for false accomplishments? Thats is true.

If you want to blame Korea for flooding the market with generic games, then your actually blaming the US. If you want to blame Japan for having things before you, blame the US. Like I said, if US didnt give releif to certain countries or enforce certain import/export laws after WWII then we would not be having this argument.

Now for giving credit to the US for something, I wont..... The US is a mixure of other countries. So, in truth, its another country's people who deserves the credit. And disrespecting another contry for their contributions shows your failure to have faith in the US.

Now for the little post about US weapons technology, who contributes to that? I know one part of that quote is contributed to a well known foreigner. Without him, the US would not have been in their position, today.

Heh what do you mean by a mixture of other country's and give credit to other countries people??? America doesn't hire illegal aliens to develop there tech so I don't see your point... If a Chinese guy that was born in America Invented some new tech it would still be considered a American technology because the guy is a American citizen and not a citizen of another country... If you mean US and other countries work together to make new tech then you can say that about any country because lots work together on technology...

The fact that you wont give credit to IBM, AMD, and Intel for leading the way in CPU tech just shows how ignorant you are...

[Cereal&Milk]

Einstein became an American citizen in 1940 so he was a American from 1940 on so I could understand why America accepts some of his ideas as there own... Being a citizen means you are part of the country so once anyone becomes a US citizen your part of the US even if you weren't born in the US...

As far as I see most Legal Immigrants want to become US citizens... I don't know what what laws effect legal immigrants but a lot I know want to become citizens really bad.... There has to be a benefit to becoming a citizen over a legal immigrant.... Anyway even so most Legal immigrants probably learned everything they know in American schools and even if a legal immigrant did work for a technology company I'm sure they brain storm with other US citizens when they develop the tech and not alone...

A title does not affect who you are and where you were born. Just because you're a citizen, it does not mean you're American from then on, it means you are a legal denizen in said Country or Continent, and that you owe said Country or Continent your allegiance.

This part is just plain ignorance. Recently, a Chinese student just transferred to my high school. But guess what, what limited amount of English she knows, she learned on her own - the mathematics she knows and studies, she learned in China. Saying that America is the primary branch of information for all legal or illegal immigrant is ignorant, to say the least. And in all truth, half, maybe even more, of the contributions made to America come from people that have, or had a different Nationality.

The only reason immigrants try to become a citizen of any land is so that they may be able to use that land's resources. Not because they like it. With this perverse way of thinking immigrants should travel any where but America.

[Stranger]

And what do you give me america?! Runescape!

Wrong, we don't even have Runescape. Runescape is made in the UK.

Applicants must be over the age of 18 and able to work in the United Kingdom.

Taken from their main site job application page.

[mixedguy206]

LOL, see this is acceptable ignorance. Something you learn from. No problem with that.

From what you asked about who has claim to the invention/innovation it really depends on the contract I would think, and what the "creator" thinks.

Does his contract state all pattents/ideas/innovations belong to the compnay?
Does he dedicate his findings on improving his homeland's greifs and sorrows?

There are many variables that this question has. Also, the impact on what the invention/innovation brings will effect its origins in history.

Ahhh ok... Well with what all you guys are saying it makes it seem sad to be a American... The way you guys word it makes it sound as if America hasn't invented anything for them selves and all other countries just make everything for them... You guys also make it sound like America is not actually a country and it's just some meeting place for all other countries to come together and invent stuff but any idea they come up with or anything they invent while living or being a citizen to US isn't considered American so all credit goes to what ever country there ethnicity is from... But this is just what im getting from your posts... lol...

[cyber7chink]

Ahhh ok... Well with what all you guys are saying it makes it seem sad to be a American... The way you guys word it makes it sound as if America hasn't invented anything for them selves and all other countries just make everything for them... You guys also make it sound like America is not actually a country and just it's some meeting place for all other countries to come together and invent stuff but any idea they come out with or anything they invent isn't considered American and all credit goes to what ever country there ethnicity is from... lol...

Sorry it sounds like that. For me its to counterbalance the Western/US superiority complex some members of this forum has. There are great contributions that the US has given to itself and to the world. But I never downplayed any of that, just corrected some assumptions.... sometimes silence means acceptance of the fact.

As for my main point,I still blame the US for the lack of good tech/MMORPGs on the western side of the hemisphere. Like I have explained, it can all be pointed to the US releif & import/export laws placed on Japan, after WWII.

[cyber7chink]

Asian games are crap.

Sure, it looks flashy and all but its got no depth to it.
Most of the games are F2P with Cash shop so difference made between a "noob" and a "pro", per say, solely depends on how much money they're willing to spend on a stupid game.

Meanwhile, American/European companies make great, I mean, GREAT games,
(lets start with Starcraft and move along, shall we?) and everything is pretty much fair.

Personally, I hate Asian cutesy-wootsy graphics and pretty boy features.
Its completely gay. and people looking at their female characters and talking about how hot they're with their pixel boobs, wtf is up with that?

I'd rather kill undeads with a giant axe as an orc or something.

Sums up one US MMORPG I know of....

[TheWiseGuy]

lol you guys just gave me a great idea imagine a mmorpg like city of heroes and city of villains but they rename it to city of americans and city of asians and we pvp against eachother all the time lmao that'll be funny

[cyber7chink]

lol you guys just gave me a great idea imagine a mmorpg like city of heroes and city of villains but they rename it to city of americans and city of asians and we pvp against eachother all the time lmao that'll be funny

As long as we can play it like Scorched Earth.

[TheWiseGuy]

it would be hot if it was like guild wars, guns or rakion(without the hackers)......i would so join the asian side lol....imo they're better gamers when it comes to mmorpg's.

[Icy]

Very true but ill put down some American technology facts... American makes a lot of things first and other countries improve on it... Also like to point out Software can also be considered technology



First LCD Screen = Made in USA

First DLP Screen = Made in America

First Plasma Screen = Made in America

Nvidia = American company

Intel = American company

AMD = American company

ATI = Canadian company but part of North America

IBM = American company

Windows OS = Made in USA

Unreal Engine 3 = Made by USA

DirectX = Made by America



I know theres lots of Japanese tech too but I don't know what they originally made first before any other country... Hell even the Playstation 3 uses a IBM CPU and a American Nvidia Video card inside.... I know Japans Sony and Toshiba made the first DVD and Toshiba also made the new HD-DVDs... I also know japan has some nice car technology but I think German car makers are right up there with them.. I seen some pretty crazy looking electric Japanese toilets too!!

All Made in China. Tho....

[K-Rizzle]

Your the most dumbest human I have ever met.

Well - I got my daily dose of irony for the day.



~K-Rizzle.

[Stranger]

CoH was the bomb!

Yeah, I love the game to death.

Americans only makes games for profits.

The heck? What kind of statement was that? Everybodys out to make profits EVERYBODY. You don't walk into a grocery store and walk out with a free cart do you? People expect money in return for their hard work to survive.

I'm sure not going to spend 3-4 years developing a game for nothing. Besides, your paying for quality, p2p games are of higher quality then cash shop games, thats obvious.

yeah i know, just that some people were getting to racist talk.
but what i saided has it's own one side story.

*but personaly i think USA has good Military Technology and a little bit of Personal Entertainment rather then Home Entertainment. while Asia Areas is useful with Home Technology, Personal Entertainment, and Home Entertainment.

Sorry if I came off mean, I didn't mean to attack you or anything. x.x

[cyber7chink]

Well - I got my daily dose of irony for the day.



~K-Rizzle.

LOL, yup. The mostest stupid thing I read too. 2