What's the deal America!

[mixedguy206]

exactly lol.

not bagging america, but i tthhhhink, japan is a bit ahead coz everyone knows that japan is well known for its technology. its true. >.<

Very true but ill put down some American technology facts... American makes a lot of things first and other countries improve on it... Also like to point out Software can also be considered technology



First LCD Screen = Made in USA

First DLP Screen = Made in America

First Plasma Screen = Made in America

Nvidia = American company

Intel = American company

AMD = American company

ATI = Canadian company but part of North America

IBM = American company

Windows OS = Made in USA

Unreal Engine 3 = Made by USA

DirectX = Made by America



I know theres lots of Japanese tech too but I don't know what they originally made first before any other country... Hell even the Playstation 3 uses a IBM CPU and a American Nvidia Video card inside.... I know Japans Sony and Toshiba made the first DVD and Toshiba also made the new HD-DVDs... I also know japan has some nice car technology but I think German car makers are right up there with them.. I seen some pretty crazy looking electric Japanese toilets too!!

[Trisomy]

All I can say is most Americans are lazy. Either that or they have more business matter in hand.

As for Korean... They got nothing to do with their free time so they create games. Easy and simple.

Oh yea... Don't expect Americans to be good and do everthing such as business,war,technology, etc... Japan is more specialize in technology(robots ), China as population, American(good government?), korean is probably nuclear bombs(just kidding) and such... So each country has something they are known for. Don't expect Americans to be good at everything.

Your generalized statements on a country are stupid. Keep them to yourself.

[Afro-American]

(America) man i would make some Awesome mmorpgs but i just cant stop playing First person shooters.

points is North America makes awesome FPS games and south Koreans make awesome MMORPGS i much prefure them to stick what they know best at, don't you?

Oh its proven fact that Tokyo is arguably the most technologically advanced city in the world. anyone that has been to tokyo will tell you it looks like a polished new york. And far much safer to wonder around at all hours of the day.
I woudlent mind living there myself so i can feel up girls on trains.

isnt OnRPG about the free exchange of facts,Racist opinions,and random junk

^fixed

[Afro-American]

honestly a 6.2 black guy with a doorag listening to Tech n9ne feeling you up on a train would rock. lmfao...

[buddhabeads]

i've never seen so many little kids make so many stupid comments in one thread

I'll give you guys some facts

American game developers are technically much more superior and i repeat much more superior than their Korean and Chinese counterparts (Japan not included because they are equally technically sound in their gaming industry)

The perfect analogy would be between European cars and Asian cars, while the latter one is cheap, convenient, mass produced, takes less time to make, have plenty of models, but the latter are devoid of any class, design, aesthetic, authenticity and innovation.

American European and Japanese game developer develop games with an aim to push the gaming industry, and thus its requires major planning and budget and henceforth their MMORPG are p2p since they actually cost money to make.

While on the hand, Korean and Chinese games simply rip off ideas from American, European and Japanese game designers and mass produce them like mindless drones. Most of the Korean games are devoid of any originality or innovation and are as cheaply made as made in china souvenirs. Henceforth most of them are f2p because they cost nothing to make.

All great computer game ideas originated in the US back in the days of PacMan and Space invaders.

RPG games and console games came of ager under Japanese game developers

And concept of MMORPG was invented by Americans, Meridan, U,O and EQ
Korean and Chinese companies just stole EQ concepts and mass produced it without giving any thought whatsoever to the MMORPG platform.

To conclude it often puzzles me why Japanese game developers are not more involved in the MMORPG platform, but it's quite clear, unlike the Chinese and Korean game developers, Japanese game developers actually have intelligence and understanding of what 'games' are about and what players want and therefore fully understand that players definitely do not want Korean grindfest games.

The single factor that has probably ruined the the whole MMORPG platform or at least held back its potential is that the Korean gaming companies and then in turn the Chinese companies decided to stick their noses in.

[sircusa]

While on the hand, Korean and Chinese games simply rip off ideas from American, European and Japanese game designers and mass produce them like mindless drones. Most of the Korean games are devoid of any originality or innovation and are as cheaply made as made in china souvenirs. Henceforth most of them are f2p because they cost nothing to make.

Now that is stupid. You don't look at many of the very good korean games...

[mixedguy206]

i've never seen so many little kids make so many stupid comments in one thread.

You could of left that out because your basically flaming everyone in the thread which will just lead to a flame war... But I do agree Japanese and American developers are better at making games then Korean Developers... Although I still enjoy some Korean MMORPGs like GE for example...

[cinderboy]

Somehow, my opinion, Korean MMORPGs are made for people of all ages, while American MMORPGs are usually targeted at the mature gamers, the working people for example.

[buddhabeads]

as great as Korean games may be, their main foundation is still based purely on grind.

PvE, PvP, RvR are all solely dependent on grind and thus whoever spent the most time in the game wins out, there's no brains involved in playing Korean MMORPGs

Furthermore there has never been a Korean MMORPG that made the same impact to the world of MMORPG as UO EQ and WoW.

I don't think they understand what gamers really want, and i doubt they have any academic studies on the subject of 'computer game theory' which are hot subjects in American and Japanese universities.

Korean games may be pretty to look but are plastic and hollow without substance, much like their cosmetically enhanced women.

[Berrybenya]

What's the deal thread creator! who cares if another country is better one some stuff when that country is better on their stuff. we are the same human
-.-

[Trisomy]

Korean games may be pretty to look but are plastic and hollow without substance, much like their cosmetically enhanced women.

Then i guess maplestory is like the michael jackson of mmorpg's.Plastic and intent on pleasing little children.

Wow that sounded nice.

[mixedguy206]

as great as Korean games may be, their main foundation is still based purely on grind.

PvE, PvP, RvR are all solely dependent on grind and thus whoever spent the most time in the game wins out, there's no brains involved in playing Korean MMORPGs

Furthermore there has never been a Korean MMORPG that made the same impact to the world of MMORPG as UO EQ and WoW.

I don't think they understand what gamers really want, and i doubt they have any academic studies on the subject of 'computer game theory' which are hot subjects in American and Japanese universities.

Korean games may be pretty to look but are plastic and hollow without substance, much like their cosmetically enhanced women.

Well despite all the bad things you said about Korean Developers I see you like the Korean made game Granado Espada lol... I understand though because its a pretty good game...

Hoever Granado Espanada has led the way and shown the rest of the MMORPG community out there that it's very possible to successfully incorporate all the great core gameplay features of a single player into an MMORPG without losing persistent world feel of an MMORPG. It's showing other game developers that the real starting point for an MMORPG is a great single player RPG and a great MMORPG should feel and be played like a great single player RPG.

GE Online is paving the way for future MMORPG to have their foundations solidly laid upon the single-player RPGS framework and forcing game devlopers to go back to the roots of what made RPGs such an endearing and lasting game genre.

[Faeye]

Then i guess maplestory is like the michael jackson of mmorpg's.Plastic and intent on pleasing little children.

Wow that sounded nice.

LOL

...

LOL

[buddhabeads]

Well despite all the bad things you said about Korean Developers I see you like the Korean made game Granado Espada lol... I understand though because its a pretty good game...

i give credit where credit is due

every now and then theres a rare gem, but GE does take on a lot of influence from Japanese RPGs, and it still doesnt escape far from the grindfest stigma

[lasthero]

whats so bad of korean games? Its just because u dont understand the game to its full extent, why say its crap for?. WHO THE HELL DOESNT KNOW HOW TO HIT A MONSTER in a foreign game repeatedly? without knowing the language, how are u going to experience the other features huh?

a majority of mmos are translated from korea to english. well dude, sry to say, ur mmorpg life is pretty limited.

ps: keep in mind every mmorpg has a grind at one point.

[buddhabeads]

lol so what's your mmorpg history than?

ever grinded 2 weeks at 5 hours a day for just one level

[lasthero]

lol so what's your mmorpg history than?

ever grinded 2 weeks at 5 hours a day for just one level

nope. does that make korean mmorpgs sound better than u think they are? thats good then lol.

[sircusa]

lol so what's your mmorpg history than?

ever grinded 2 weeks at 5 hours a day for just one level

I never required to do that in a korean game, what are you playing? Don't say maplestory because everyone knows it's a grindfest.

[cyber7chink]

as great as Korean games may be, their main foundation is still based purely on grind.

PvE, PvP, RvR are all solely dependent on grind and thus whoever spent the most time in the game wins out, there's no brains involved in playing Korean MMORPGs

Furthermore there has never been a Korean MMORPG that made the same impact to the world of MMORPG as UO EQ and WoW.

I don't think they understand what gamers really want, and i doubt they have any academic studies on the subject of 'computer game theory' which are hot subjects in American and Japanese universities.

Korean games may be pretty to look but are plastic and hollow without substance, much like their cosmetically enhanced women.

1. Everythng you been stating is mere assumptions with no real facts to back them up.

2. The main foundation was based on a single RPG that had multiplayer capabilities. Diablo

3. Koreans like most asian countries strive to be the greatest. High levels are just that, to show who is better. To make it a challenge, the best have to work at it. High levels means just that, earn and be #1. Like most US made games, its based on testotsterone gaming. Everyone can obtain a reachable level, so they deal it out in fights to see who is better. Which is the typical western style of gaming. Everyone can be the same, but you can be #1 still.......

4. Korean MMORPGS, spearheaded the MMOPRG movement. MMORPG were still not as popular as they coiuld have been if it was not for the Korean MMORPGs taking over the internet. Without them, you would have no competition, and the MMORPG industry would be just a mere fad. Even though many MMORPGS started off in US and Europe on the old dial-up BBS, it never really went anywhere for a long time. Even with EQ, UO, and even WoW, the market was really not noticable. Once F2P games where introduced (first one was Korean), the genre began to start to support itself.

#1 Gaming company in 2007 is NCSoft(S. Korean based). They have held that title for several years now. If they never got ahold of the idea of how games are created, why did one company started in 1996, how did they get so good, and become the best at MMO gaming development and publishing?

If the Korean MMORPG market is not as popular as you assume, then why does almost every US MMORPG publisher has a Korean gaming consultant employed by them?

Overall, all your assumptions are just plain false. If you want to make a good arguement, make sure your able to post something that can be possibly believed as the truth.

The truth is most of the Korean MMORPG developers are ahead of the race. They are making better profits and the games are more popular around the world than what you assume.

@mixedguy206

When your naming off the tech US has brought to the human race, I have to laugh. All you got your head in is PC and PC related harware/peripherals. No matter what Korea/Japan will always be ahead of the tech race. Almost everything you see before you (tech), was tested or created in Korea/Japan.

Even if the tech was created here, they know the best place to go to see if its going to be accepted is in Japan or Korea (with the exception of console systems). Most of what Anyone playes with in the US is basically 6 months to 1 year old compared to what Korea and Japan has. Korea is #1 consultants for MMO and networking communications, and japan is #1 when it comes to the tech toys.

Example: The latest tech they use in mobile phones (G3), was tech that was created in Korea in 2002. Its just recent that US mobile phone developers accepting this tech into their products.

In reality, US is behind when it comes to technology. Japan/S. Korea are the innovators of tech. They will always be the places to go to introduce new technology to the world.

You can also blame the US for this happening. I have explained why the US is at fault about most of the things that are heppening with gaming and tech, today. Its all starts with the end of WWII.

lol so what's your mmorpg history than?

ever grinded 2 weeks at 5 hours a day for just one level

My early MMORPG history:
1994 Sierra Online (King's Quest online)
1997 Lineage
1998 Ultima Online

And still more assumptions......... Lets see what game your refering to when you have to grind 2 weeks for a level..... I am sure its not a real game.

[sircusa]

Yay for cyber7chink for putting up a better fight then the rest of us =P

[cyber7chink]

Yay for cyber7chink for putting up a better fight then the rest of us =P

I sense sarcasm here........ no fight, just some facts.

ONE MORE THING!!!!!!!!

Out of 245 million MMORPGers, do you think 8 million players means success? It sounds like a poor excuse to sound important. 3.27% of the target audience is just sad.

[Magnific3nt]

well if america makes crappy games like wow then how come most of the wow players are from china playing it 24/7 and dying and then leaving their babies in their homes to play wow at a cybercafe and go home and find their baby died. i think chinese people love american games more than korean games

[Trisomy]

How can you sense sarcasm out of words. Generally speaking sarcasm is interpretated via tone. But how you do it on forums. Please tell me.

[cyber7chink]

How can you sense sarcasm out of words. Generally speaking sarcasm is interpretated via tone. But how you do it on forums. Please tell me.

There is more than one whay to pick up on sarcasm.

Observation of behavioral patterns is a fun thing to do. Its how you can pick up on sarcasm and other things when all you got is a letter/post.

But for this matter, I am just joking around.

Also, its not all about tone. A lot of time, body gestures or unusaul reactions to a situation can lead to sarcasm, as well.

well if america makes crappy games like wow then how come most of the wow players are from china playing it 24/7 and dying and then leaving their babies in their homes to play wow at a cybercafe and go home and find their baby died. i think chinese people love american games more than korean games

And you read this where? Care to provide us with a link? Until then, your post is just rumors.

[mixedguy206]

@mixedguy206

When your naming off the tech US has brought to the human race, I have to laugh. All you got your head in is PC and PC related harware/peripherals. No matter what Korea/Japan will always be ahead of the tech race. Almost everything you see before you (tech), was tested or created in Korea/Japan.

Even if the tech was created here, they know the best place to go to see if its going to be accepted is in Japan or Korea (with the exception of console systems). Most of what Anyone playes with in the US is basically 6 months to 1 year old compared to what Korea and Japan has. Korea is #1 consultants for MMO and networking communications, and japan is #1 when it comes to the tech toys.

Example: The latest tech they use in mobile phones (G3), was tech that was created in Korea in 2002. Its just recent that US mobile phone developers accepting this tech into their products.

In reality, US is behind when it comes to technology. Japan/S. Korea are the innovators of tech. They will always be the places to go to introduce new technology to the world.

You can also blame the US for this happening. I have explained why the US is at fault about most of the things that are heppening with gaming and tech, today. Its all starts with the end of WWII.

I was just using CPUs as a example of how US is ahead of Korea and Japan in the computer tech... If you cant accept that they are then that's your prob..Theres also way more types of technology then just "Tech Toys"... Japan and Korea aren't ahead in every type of technology and thats a fact... Theres technology for Military, Space exploration, Medical fields, Software tech, and lots more.. I doubt Korea and Japan lead the way for every type of technology possible...