Ram and Vista

[Jeszus]

Hey i haven't got vista yet (i doubt i will in tell i really need it) But will 2gigs do the job?

[Khanstruct]

Ok, I do want to point something out here though. Vista has a neat little option that can use Jump Drives as additional ram. OOH, I almost got vista for that reason, until I found out; your computer runs all of your ram as the slowest ram you have. Meaning, if you have DDR ram (which you most likely do), and you use a jump drive for additional ram (which is SD ram) all you're basically doing is turning your existing ram into sd ram and slowing the whole computer down. Sad it sounded so promising.

[pixl]

Is this a sad attempt at bragging about ram? Yes, of course 2 gigs would work. The only issue with vista is messing around with page filing or some such nonsense. Not really sure, I'm avoiding it like the plague that it is.

The pagefile is no more trouble than in XP. I'm using Vista and I'd never ant to go back to XP.

Ok, I do want to point something out here though. Vista has a neat little option that can use Jump Drives as additional ram. OOH, I almost got vista for that reason, until I found out; your computer runs all of your ram as the slowest ram you have. Meaning, if you have DDR ram (which you most likely do), and you use a jump drive for additional ram (which is SD ram) all you're basically doing is turning your existing ram into sd ram and slowing the whole computer down. Sad it sounded so promising.

That's totally wrong. Don't try to teach others what you don't know about.

Vista isn't that great for gaming, Because Vista can't play that much Mmorpg, cause most of them doesn't work on vista. Unless your play fps games.

I've never come across an mmorpg that doesn't work on Vista. I'm betting you've never even used it.

[Neil]

The pagefile is no more trouble than in XP. I'm using Vista and I'd never ant to go back to XP.



That's totally wrong. Don't try to teach others what you don't know about.



I've never come across an mmorpg that doesn't work on Vista. I'm betting you've never even used it.

No, but I have. And it's awful, the price is just ridiculous. You're basically paying for Microsoft's "attempt" at creating several applications that try to compete with the market leaders, and failing, miserably. Vista is still buggy, slow, incompatible, vulnerable and pointless. If I was ever going to (heh) "Buy" Vista, then I would wait until atleast a decent service pack is released and I see some point in upgrading to an Operating System that is no better than Windows XP. (Oh, not upgrading... A clean install, if you've ever upgraded from XP to Vista then you'll know that it would take about twenty minutes to boot and three days to shut down.)

[neothaka]

because you can't play mmorpg's on vista, doesn't mean it's bad :s.
A lot of MMORPG's have, or are working on releasing a Vista compatible patch. Several have already done that, such as Silkroad.

The price for vista is idd outrageous, 279 euros, for a freaking operating system.
then Bill Gates wonders why so many people use illegal downloaded versions (and yes, there are already several ways of making your illegal copy of vista look valid for microsoft, so you can fully benefit from vista's features. The same also exists for Xp)

And about Vista for gaming, i personally think you don't know what you're talking about. here you are, speculating about what system reqs you will SURELY need for gaming on Vista, while none of the actual specifications have been given. Next to the fact that Vista is in a somewhat, alpha-like phase.

Try again, when the real specs for UT2k3, Quakewars and Crysis have been given ...

[Ramstien]

Just don't get Vista. Stay with XP.

[TwitcH]

I actually think Vista has alot of improvements compared to XP, yeah sure the default install of Vista is horrible, but who the hell sticks with defaults?

If the nice new 3D looks are slowing you down, turn them off.
Networking with Vista has improved greatly, never has it been so easy to set up a windows network.

Yeah the driver support is a bit choppy at the moment, but that can only get better.

The improvements made in security are extremely well done, a couple more patches and you can say goodbye to the most harmful of Virii on windows.

To be honest I cannot find anything that they have made worse than XP. I think alot of the people saying Vista is crap are just following trend and have not sat and played with it long enough to give it a chance.

[neothaka]

ok, you have just given all the reasons why people dislike Vista now.

'if the 3D feature slows your pc down, turn it off' -which is the same as, turn of the unnecesary 3D effects and return to the Xp interface.

Driver stability is probably the biggest one. How do you play games on vista with a vaste chance that your game will crash, run slower, ... ?

Improved protection, i'm sorry, but i'm happy with my standard windows xp home sp2 and Avast antivirus. People care VERY little for windows firewall and just use a third party protectionsoftware

networking is better, easier to set up. I take your word on that, but how would that ever be a descisive advantage for buying windows Vista?
Gamers see improved networking as something negliable, no?

Last, why people don't use Vista and say it sucks, because it is unfinished, so i agree with them. This the casual way of things down at Microsoft ... They release a very unstable and buggy operating system which costs a fortune ( 279 euros is just outrageous, i' ve said it before)

Here is my advice, just wait a few months before switching to Vista. With every OS they released, they show a pattern, at release, uberbuggy/stable, few months later things start to work out fine. Remember how many people said XP sucked when it was first released? I dare to say that probably everyone uses XP right now.

[Neil]

I have no idea what you are talking about. You must have used a beta version.

Yeah, the price is ****ing stupid but I didn't pay for it (microsoft lets me use it for free)

Beta?

I have every version of the final build of Windows Vista, plus RTM, Release Candidates and Beta builds.

Trust me, I know what I am talking about.

And Microsoft gave you Vista for free eh?

I gather you already know that Microsoft gave away top-of-the-range Vista-included laptops and PC's to well known reporters who will be reviewing Vista, absolutely free. I doubt that was out of the goodness of their hearts.

Either you are one of the bribed, the employed, the Dell user, or the guy that downloaded a kind-of-cracked-but-actually-isn't Vista RTM build from BitTorrent.

[Dead Eyes]

you know what I say? wait 6 months, and then buy vista and one of the (which hopefully will be released then), more affordable directX 10 cards. 6 months should be ample for microsoft to iron out vista, and for the large majority of downloads to be made compatible.

[FabianN]

LOL Enjoy your vista DRM AIDs

Vista uses up a ton more resources. Good example is that for Crysis there are two minimume system requirements. One for XP, one for Vista. Vista requires an extra 384MB of RAM to meet the min. requirments over XP.

The drivers have very little to do about it.
And lets not forget the annoying over-kill "security" which has already been cracked, making it just a worthless annoyance.

Vista's kernal is very good. No argument there.
What ruined Vista was what they added ontop of the kernal.

I'll just wait till Server 2008 comes out and get that. It will have the new kernal and also support DX10, but without the bullshit.

[Rodenty]

meh sounds like im sticking to good ol xp then no wait my pc is being rebuilt so its a chance vista is coming and 4gb OF RAM OWOTSUETUOSEUFE ! and sli cards says dad im actuly typing this whilst he says it ooh duel core processer and ..he stopped

[pixl]

LOL Enjoy your vista DRM AIDs

Vista uses up a ton more resources. Good example is that for Crysis there are two minimume system requirements. One for XP, one for Vista. Vista requires an extra 384MB of RAM to meet the min. requirments over XP.

The drivers have very little to do about it.
And lets not forget the annoying over-kill "security" which has already been cracked, making it just a worthless annoyance.

Vista's kernal is very good. No argument there.
What ruined Vista was what they added ontop of the kernal.

I'll just wait till Server 2008 comes out and get that. It will have the new kernal and also support DX10, but without the bullshit.

People said the same thing about XP when it came out.