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    ... Man, you know who I don't believe in?
    Benny Hinn.
    That guy is such a fraud, and he manages to manipulate so many naive people, it pisses me off.

    It's so easy to tell he's making shitloads of money off people... traveling all over the world "in the name of God", staying in the most expensive hotels he can find, because it's "God's will".

    Can't believe no one's killed him off yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aru View Post
    ... Man, you know who I don't believe in?
    Benny Hinn.
    That guy is such a fraud, and he manages to manipulate so many naive people, it pisses me off.

    It's so easy to tell he's making shitloads of money off people... traveling all over the world "in the name of God", staying in the most expensive hotels he can find, because it's "God's will".

    Can't believe no one's killed him off yet.
    hahaha i read his wikipedia article, and they had to lock it from editing. hahaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieren View Post
    Dude, thats ****ing horrible.
    i hella agree. That church must DIE. what kind of twisted idea is it to not give someone a service just because they didn't give enough money to the church?

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    i didnt read the whole post so... ya...

    my opinion about God:

    if you say " hell, unless God come to me and slap me in the face then i will believe in him" don't worry that will never happen. God, is all about faith. there need no proof to proof his exsitence to someone that believes in him. however, proves can't take the place of faith. if one have no faith, even God stands right in front of him, he won't notice.

    for example. you walk in front of a crowd of people. some of them are blind, but some of them aren't. people that are not blind, will be able to see you. and they need no proofs to proof that you are in front of them, why? because they can see you. but for those that can't see, even though other people tell them that you are right in front of them, they won't believe. why? because they can't see you. touching, hearing aren't enough, blind people can simple say the one that they are touching or hearing, isn't you.

    now you see the difference? proofs can NOT help you believe in God. just like other people telling the blind people, blind people won't believe until they can actually see you.

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    How is asking people about their religious beliefs grounds for a warning?

    And just in case anyone clicked the first poster's link and believed in that bullshit, I'd just like to say that the "PRACTICAL MAN'S PROOF OF GOD" in no way proves anything. In fact, it blatantly contradicts itself, or proves the opposite by saying "In order for matter to come out of nothing, all of our scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy would have to be wrong, invalidating all of chemistry." Now this is a pretty shitty point to make if you're trying to say god created everything. Where the **** did he get everything? And that's only one of the problems, but I think it's sufficient enough to debunk their "argument."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcteryx View Post
    How is asking people about their religious beliefs grounds for a warning?
    I'm not saying warn people for creating a religous debate, I'm talking about how this guy created a thread obviously trying to convert people.

    Not to mention, but most of the other "God" threads tend to be annoying and some what unintelligent, but not all.

    I like my conversation with proof, and religion has very little of it (I still believe though), and thus is a topic I tend to not like to talk about because I become contradictory.

    (I can't talk abortion with my co-worker because she's against it and I'm for it, and there's very little proof for either side.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian
    The human race came from Africa. We are, in a sense, all black people.
    Austrilia? Im not sure but i think austrilia is where we came form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicjubin View Post
    Austrilia? Im not sure but i think austrilia is where we came form.
    The first trace of (human) society emerged from East Africa. Needs, like food shelter and so on, as well as a natural curiosity were grounds for people to spread. As the Homo became smarter, it learned to create and use conventional items and tools. If Discovery was correct, the first people to live in Australia floated over on rafts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FabianN View Post
    The human race came from Africa. We are, in a sense, all black people.
    Actually, color is only determined by the skin-pigmants amount of exposure to solar rasiation.

    Because Europe is farther north than Africas, there is less radiation acting upon the skin, so less pigmantation occured. In Africa, the radiation was far more direct that it caused the skin to extensively brwon to protect the body.

    However, over the years (many millenia) the color of our skin basically became apart of our DNA. In a sense, since man was constantly under the same exposure of solar radiation, the body (through many generations of the tiniest evolution) evolved the DNA with an imprint of the skins pigmant.

    In truth, no man on this earth is really any color at all.

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    Back on topic:

    Now, I believe, but I also believe in the facts behind evolution.

    Now, I don't have time to debate this, but I'm gonna say this.
    -I'm tired of seeing religous people pop up with the evolution topic spouting out, "how come over the past several mellenias man hasn;t evolved at all?" and the answer is simple, man hasn't stoped evolving.

    Evolution comes only when change to the body is needed to survive, the best example being skin color. You don't see anymore changes in society because the effects of evolution are not noticible untill you reach about several many generations worth of life (several hundreds of years). Thus the changes to man, for example, are more naturally our immunities have adapted, and in many cases, our body sizes have increased.

    For me to be more specific, I would have to research more into the field of cellular biology, which I don't have time right now.


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    So, these were just a few issues involving (somehow) religon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Company View Post
    Pointless spam heaven is created by the mind of humans as a state of denial for the human fear of dying.
    This thread is pointless spam delete please and ader is ******ed dont frickin try to convice people...
    Can you stop flaming? In your other thread, your original post was a copy pasta and you said science was a proven fact. Which part of science then? I mean, on the topic of religion and the creation of the earth, then you bring in this statement "Science is a proven fact", the only theory I can think of that you are referring to would be the Big Bang, and that is only a theory, so I don't see any proven fact about the creation of Earth.

    PS. Your level of English is almost as low as Ader, who in case you people didn't notice, isn't a native English speaker. You're from America, shame on you and you're English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cereal&Milk View Post
    What's the purpose of this thread? To force the belief of a God on others? The world is made up of billions of people - each one with a distinct sense of individuality. There is no guarantee, that just by posting this trash, you'll have even 1% of the desired effect. You cannot change another's beliefs, you can only hope to impact them.

    Also, this thread seems like it needs a lockdown...
    The purpose of my thread is to give sight to the blind,

    in the end,

    GOD wouldn't ask me how many MEN, i got for GOD,

    (Quality, not quantity.)

    but he'll ask,

    how did i love GOD/ other people?

    How did people love me as i love them?

    how did i defended god?

    did i did ur best for GOD?

    God wont ask quantity, but quality.

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    GIVE ME SOULS, TAKE THE REST
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncyphe View Post
    No, this thread ain't trash, but the poster did need to think about what he was saying, as I prooved in a post a couple up. So, yeah, it does need a lock.

    Considering these people have such few post counts, I bet these are the same people who constantly come back and make the same "God" threads.

    The problem with most religous fanatics, they seem to think religion is above logic, in a sense, they don't think the rules aply to them.

    Being too religous will lead to the ultimate downfall of man, as with religon keeps us from doing many things that ultimately keep our society in check, that without, chaos will instrue.

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    I hereby vote that we make all posts atempting to convert members of this forums a banable offense.

    I also ask that Stupid thread like, "Do you believe in God," a measure for a warning.
    This thread is for blinds like you.

    Godbless you. ^_^,

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    i didnt read the whole post so... ya...

    my opinion about God:

    if you say " hell, unless God come to me and slap me in the face then i will believe in him" don't worry that will never happen. God, is all about faith. there need no proof to proof his exsitence to someone that believes in him. however, proves can't take the place of faith. if one have no faith, even God stands right in front of him, he won't notice.

    for example. you walk in front of a crowd of people. some of them are blind, but some of them aren't. people that are not blind, will be able to see you. and they need no proofs to proof that you are in front of them, why? because they can see you. but for those that can't see, even though other people tell them that you are right in front of them, they won't believe. why? because they can't see you. touching, hearing aren't enough, blind people can simple say the one that they are touching or hearing, isn't you.

    now you see the difference? proofs can NOT help you believe in God. just like other people telling the blind people, blind people won't believe until they can actually see you.
    I think you got the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReGainMadness View Post
    Goddamn everytime a topic like this pops up I thinking more and more of becoming a Satanist >.>

    You're not a devil's doing if you just don't believe in god.
    ok, now hes sounding more and more stupid... i was thnking the same thing(- the stanist part)


    ok, Just cause you dont belive in god, doesnt mean thats the devils doing... it means that he is logical person who cant, wont, or dont see things of a devine nature... people like you, yes you ader(which i am not) make me want to turn atheist... yeah i said it, cause if i have to stand you saying, BLAMEING things on the devil. I hope you burn in hell,(ah thats a sin, but i dont care i will tea bag you)

    Stop talking like a preacher... how old are you?


    but he'll ask,

    how did i love GOD/ other people?

    How did people love me as i love them?

    how did i defended god?

    did i did ur best for GOD?

    God wont ask quantity, but quality.
    NEWS FLASH.... HE DOESNT CARE!!!! REad the bible remeber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcteryx View Post
    How is asking people about their religious beliefs grounds for a warning?

    And just in case anyone clicked the first poster's link and believed in that bullshit, I'd just like to say that the "PRACTICAL MAN'S PROOF OF GOD" in no way proves anything. In fact, it blatantly contradicts itself, or proves the opposite by saying "In order for matter to come out of nothing, all of our scientific laws dealing with the conservation of matter/energy would have to be wrong, invalidating all of chemistry." Now this is a pretty shitty point to make if you're trying to say god created everything. Where the **** did he get everything? And that's only one of the problems, but I think it's sufficient enough to debunk their "argument."
    God did really created everything.

    My proof is my Faith.

    Quote Originally Posted by ncyphe View Post
    I'm not saying warn people for creating a religous debate, I'm talking about how this guy created a thread obviously trying to convert people.
    I AM NOT TRYING TO CONVERT OTHER PEOPLE.

    It is up to you, them, if they belive or not.

    I'm just giving sight to the blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ader View Post
    God did really created everything.

    My proof is my Faith.
    ok, i need you to go back and read everything i said, and maybe you will shut up... cause i made alot of sence... your not reading what you dont want to hear... that you are an ignorant, self centerd, being, bent on proveing yourself to the lord to get to heven.


    There are no blind... only the ignorant like you who cant see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negrac View Post
    No, your wrong, The bible is the word of god though man... and man, from day one corrupt to the hope that they, can live on past there days. It says this, you go to hell, you do this, you go to hell, in which its just them putting the words of what they want of the world into the text... some may be true, but i do not live by words i live by actions. I belive in god, i belive jesus died for my sins, but i refuse to go to church... God doesnt live in a stale old building... god lives in the hearts of all... I live my life how i want

    I Dont always follow the rules, and if you do your liveing your life not as a cristian... but as a coward... hideing behind your religion. I Live on the edge, i make mistakes, and sin left and right... i live my life to the fullest, like god intended it to be. the bible is just words, words dont make my life... my actions make my life, my dreams, my hopes, and my faith... make my life. Dont get me wrong, but thouse who take the bible into literal terms are stuck up and self centered. doing good for the hope of one day being rewarded and not going to a place of pain... fear... makes them do good deeds... that is not what the bible said, only to bace your life off the tales of that book, to learn thouse lessons and not to repeat history.
    It is writen in the bible,

    that the BIBLE is the WORD OF GOD.

    (becoz, the writers of the bible was INSPIRED by THE HOLY SPIRIT which is GOD)

    So? uhm? how can i be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negrac View Post
    are you high, your not suposta love god? your suposta worship him... .there happens to be a diffrence. he loves you... i mean loveing god is weird, you cant love an entity
    If i love GOD, then,

    i love you, bocoz as loving God is following his commandments,

    and while loving him is worshiping him by Actions/ Serving/ Spiritual Deeds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanstruct View Post
    Holy crap. I really shouldn't post my comments here, but I simply can't resist. First of all, "god" never picked up a pen in his life. And saying that all the people that wrote the bible were inspired by him is an absolute cop out.

    Second, genetics has shown that the human race originated in three areas of the earth. One was from Africa (which branched out and also became Europeans), one was Asia (which also became native americans) and one was Middle Eastern.

    Science has already proven much of the claims of the bible to be lies (primarily Genesis). For instance, the earth and the universe have been proven to be MUCH older than the bible claims. And I won't even go into how the bible disproves itself. But just a quick note, Cain was banished, wandered west and stumbled upon the city of Nod. Where did all of those people come from!? I thought Adam and Eve's family were the only ones created.

    Anyway, you can call me the devil or say I'm being controlled by some demon; I won't be losing any sleep over it. I also don't expect to change anyone's beliefs here. I find it hilarious that zealots are always the one's claiming to be open minded.

    God was created because the idea that we are in control of our own lives and that we are accountable to ourselves is intimidating. People don't want to take responsibility for the world and therefore made up a father figure. You have your church, my son sucked his thumb, we all have our security blankets.

    On an interesting note, however, I am actually a very spiritual person. However, I think that to give the infinite power of creation in the universe a human face, human emotions and essentially human characteristics as whole is wildly insulting. You are not the center of the universe. What you call god, doesn't know you, doesn't have an opinion about you and certainly doesn't look like you. Get over yourself.

    And I'll close with this little question. When you die, what will you call yourself? Your face is made of skin and bone. That's rotting in the earth. Your emotions are electrical charges and chamical releases in your brain. We can stick an electrode to your frontal lobe and trigger any one of them, as well as memories and dreams. Guess where your brain is. Right! Rotting in the earth. The fact is, everything that you know to be "I", or "me" is worm food. Yet you think that some mystical version of yourself will walk around in an equally mystical land called heaven.

    I know that the idea of losing your identity is frightening. People don't want to think about the fact that they will no longer exist in this egocentric form. But those are the facts. You will die. Your thoughts, hopes, dreams and emotions will all die with you. So here's an interesting thought. Why does the bible always refer to the "sins of the flesh"? The truth is, you haven't even come close to the part of yourself that's spiritual; because you still arrogantly think that its you. And that, my dear friend, is what your faith calls, the devil's work.

    well the discrepincies in the bible are due to the fact that they where never ment to be takeing literaly.

    goes for everything you guys have to say and said...

    The bible is the word of god, interptated by man. thats what it is, men wrote the stories in it didnt they?

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    Don't be a smart ass. So what your saying is http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...519701&q=Jesus
    is just a good movie too then?
    It's not proof or faith, then that means you are not making true statements. I giev you 2 more responses to prove your point because this counts, but i know you just wrote a comment that has no point, which I can mark as spamming in the topic and close it and warn you for as well. Or I can simply go through each of your posts and see if they are breaking the rules. I am not singling you out, I would do this for the entire topic. I would do this because it seems to me that you think you can try and make some reason, and not be wrong, but any one else who makes a reason is incorrect and you do not give any reason to why you say that.

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