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    Default What MMORPG PvP relys on skill instead on gear

    What MMORPG in your opinion is Skilled reliant rather than high level and gear reliant?

    i think one is ragnarok because you need to master dueling tips and all the skill changing depending on who you're up against in order to be good instead of just gearing up and killing

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    Its true that Ragnarok doesn't really focus much on Equipment but what it does focus on is the cards placed on them.
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    Guild Wars u dont need to have gold items. u get blue ones from collectors for free ( u give collector items monster drop) and buy upgrades and pimp em.

    forget all games with item shop..item shops are for ppl who have to buy uber items to make em stronger..cause they cant win the way others do.

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    Guild Wars, but its not considered an MMORPG till GW2.

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    Cant wait for GW2, new races and a completely new look upon the game xD.

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    yeah, i guess Guild wars is most reliant on the skill ...
    YOU gain experience , not your char . It's all about how good you are.char plays a small role in it i guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyber7chink View Post
    Guild Wars, but its not considered an MMORPG till GW2.
    yes true its CoMORPG

    GW 2 will be more like WoW ..just not for ppl who got a life^^ ...jk

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    shadowbane is only skill/char build based- armor, juwelirs are at 2nd place but important like in every other mmorpg .


    guildwars has the same, but the good thing is tehre u can start already with a pvp char with best equip, u dont need green or gold items, since those are only important for pve, and the whole pvp is team based, so who care s if somone has 1 energie more?

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    BATTLE POSITION

    Level 1 can defeat Level 30.

    Purely skills, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theultimate2004 View Post
    BATTLE POSITION

    Level 1 can defeat Level 30.

    Purely skills, really.
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    O2jam!! You kill them with ur own musicz! a naked level 1 can defeat some punk ass level 50!...alright thats no MMORPG but it's a fact lol.

    Anyways, I'd go with the others here. GuildWars is your answer.

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    World of Warcraft.

    Yes, gear does play a rather large role in PvP, but is also based on skill. Gear makes such a difference because 90% of the population don't actually know how to PvP. You have to know the enemy classes abilities, what they can do in certain situation, the cooldowns of each skill, etc. In short: 90% of WoW players don't know how to play their class.
    (PS: Two shotting someone =/= skill)

    Proof:

    http://files.filefront.com/I_Suck_At.../fileinfo.html

    This guy is godly at his class (Mage), and is a very good player. He represents one of the people from the 10% minority (people with skill).

    BTW: Click the play button, the actual video comes after the Street Fighter intro.

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    bollocks, a ***** 19 can kill non *****s up till about level 28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Eyes View Post
    bollocks, a ***** 19 can kill non *****s up till about level 28
    so true really so true WoW depends on really on gears and even with the little minority with skills i usually didnt c any of them play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Eyes View Post
    bollocks, a ***** 19 can kill non *****s up till about level 28
    Well, PvP doesn't really matter till 70. A *****ed out level 19 can have better stats, etc than a level 29 with regular gear. That changes at 70, where you can't really ***** your character out with enchants and make that huge of an impact. (except for resilience).

    Again, a level 28 whose losing to a level 19 ***** isn't really all that skilled either. You have way more utility at level 28, than at level 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuro View Post
    World of Warcraft.

    Yes, gear does play a rather large role in PvP, but is also based on skill. Gear makes such a difference because 90% of the population don't actually know how to PvP. You have to know the enemy classes abilities, what they can do in certain situation, the cooldowns of each skill, etc. In short: 90% of WoW players don't know how to play their class.
    (PS: Two shotting someone =/= skill)

    Proof:

    http://files.filefront.com/I_Suck_At.../fileinfo.html

    This guy is godly at his class (Mage), and is a very good player. He represents one of the people from the 10% minority (people with skill).

    BTW: Click the play button, the actual video comes after the Street Fighter intro.
    LOL! You are one joker...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    WoW requires more skill then most think any person who says otherwise was prolly getting their ass kicked by some guy with leet gears and I can understand how that would differ your perception of the game.

    My experience on my server was diffrent my server was ran by major guilds who were the first worldwide to down MC BWL and AQ everyone was running around in leet gear and when you take all those major guilds and throw them in the pvp mix you get some great skilled pvp. Ive been mmo less for about 2 years now and Ive tried every game I could whether it was b2p f2p p2p w/e and No game could compare to 2 major guilds going at in a CTF match.

    Generally speaking if you have a bad view on wow you were prolly a noob getting owned by players with 10x better gear but dont sit there and say theres no skill because if you take 2 players with the same gear there was a shitload of skill involved not to mention the strategies involved and teamwork in the battlegrounds.
    Yes, thank you. Finally someone who sees the game for what it really is.

    There just seems to be a lot of WoW haters on these boards because they got their ass handed to them when they played.

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    Many people hate WoW because its overrated.
    It isnt the best game out of here, and every great power will fall sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlordrody View Post
    It isnt the best game out of here, and every great power will fall sometime.
    One's opinion, and I respect that.

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    GW>WoW


    Just because I hate pink people running around and super muscle humans with big ass chins.

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    Rumble fighter. Even if you use gear in it. You have to have a strategy and skills to use the weapons. Trust me. A lvl 1 guy kicked my tail.

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    It's a proven fact that the better a game is, the higher the number of pretentious ONRPGers will swear up and down that it's bad.

    That said:

    As for PvP, WoW is a mix of skill and gear. Whoever brought up the point of "epix beat greens" is an idiot, because an Outland green is better than a Blackrock Spire/Onyxia/other raids of that era epic. Once you hit seventy, it (as my friend Barbarian said) "rains epix and gold down upon you". THAT'S when skill makes a bigger difference than gear - 70 BGs are determined wholly by class makeup and strategy. Period.

    However, WoW is not the top of the hill in PvP. You really have to try various games to find out what you like. Do you like no-holds-barred, I-kill-you-and-take-your-shit-the-moment-you-step-out-of-the-town PvP like in Ultima Online? Do you like Shadowbane's high-tension, constant PvP? You may like Ragnarok's PvP Room and Emperium Wars format, which probably holds the highest rank as far as strategy and skills go. Maybe you like WoW, where you have a choice of PvE or PvP through a simple flag. There a lot of choices, and you have to try various games to get the feel.

    Last point, to cyber7chink: Just because you ***** your character in Guild Wars by choosing skills and not gear doesn't mean you're not *****ing your character.

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    er....Lunia?
    no.....Exteel yeah that's one

    er.........Rumble Fighter!

    Honestly, do you think I'm like him?

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    Quit pretendin that WoW is skill based this is just crap..i saw lvl 19 rogues runnin around with 2000 hp at lvl 19 killin everything...this is only gear based!

    now get off me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thralia View Post
    Quit pretendin that WoW is skill based this is just crap..i saw lvl 19 rogues runnin around with 2000 hp at lvl 19 killin everything...this is only gear based!

    now get off me
    AHAHAHA, what are u talking about here? ****ing *****s who cares about them, when u get reach 70 its all about skill. U wont beat a skilled player with blue gear while u r unskilled with epix!
    And that hunter who can kill players 20 levels above ur level, thats ****ing bullshit believe me!

    Every game requires skill, so does WoW, maybe WoW less then other games but thats ur own choice when you start to play WoW.

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