I agree wholeheartedly Endless; not only is torture immoral, it's unreliable and in-efficient. Any information you might get out of them is, at best, questionable (As you said, under extreme circumstances, a man will say anything, true or not). And beyond that, it's simply wrong, on every moral basis that makes sense. What is this whole "war" about if all we're going to do is lower ourselves to their level? Yes, most middle-east dictatorships torture; U.S. soldiers undoubtedly. But the only thing we (Barely) can have in any war, is the moral high-ground. Without it, whats the point?