can i just say: you cant bring morality into this and use it as an argument against torture.
You CAN say i believe that torture is morally wrong but you CANT say torture is wrong because it is immoral.
Morality and the very notion of 'right' and 'wrong' is highly subjective. In iran its not immoral to torture someone to death for certain crimes but many westerners would consider that immoral.
Does the US have the right to overstep its own moral boundaries in the name of world peace and security? no, i dont think so, i find that highly immoral.
Should we judge everyone else in the world by our own standards? i dont think so either.
Should we intervene in other societies and communities in order to being them round to our own way of life which is more "fair and moral"? I have no idea.
although many people will argue that the US army may have the right to use torture on certain individuals to save more american lives i still dont really know whether anyone can out and out condemn something which they dont actually have that much knowledge about.
Would it be immoral if we didnt know about it? well yeah, but we wouldnt complain about it as much.
Honestly i cant come up with an answer to that question, but what i do think is wrong is the wests age old policy of saying one thing and doing something totally different.
we preach peace and security and yet sow death and violence. we are no better morally than communist china.