Humanity

[Vent]

Firstly I am NOT a emo,goth,gangster or any-other social groups I'm just a 14 year old boy who hangs out with a group of 3 other people. I made this post to see if other people have the same thoughts on the subject personally in the last couple of weeks from watching the news and learning thing from histroy, such has slavary,ww1/2 and other world changing events I do knw that these people only make up a part of the world, but lately it seems they have started to out number the respectable people in the world I've started to lose faith in humanity. First I'll start with the universal declaration of human rights many things in the declaration are being broken, I can understand human natural and the reason why some of these things are being broken but things such as torture and taking the life of another human being unless for self defence is sick and twisted. second people wage wars over the stupidest of things for an example land, which can be talked over i have to say the dumbest of people are in control of the world at this moment. They act like children waging war over land i can understand why they wage war but I personally think that if you have to have a war and kill many of the kind and brave people of your country for a couple miles or yards or whatever of land your kind of perfetic if you want the land so bad risk your own life for it not others. anyway that's what i think of it what are you guys thoughts?

[AlexanderVB]

That's the nature of realpolitik (cynical neo-imperialism). If you want to make a difference, learn all you can about what's going on, read books and listen to and read the news. That way you can make informed decisions about what's going on, especially when you're old enough to vote. I firmly believe that the number one reason why the world is the way it is is because most of the world's population is ignorant of what's actually going on.

Personally speaking, I don't like most people, and tend to be shy and standoffish. I'm not really comfortable around people I don't already know really well, and I get paranoid in crowds. I have a hard time trusting anyone. This has nothing to do with the world issues you were talking about, though, and more to do with my school experience.

The question is, would you rather everyone thought one their own and each had an equal stake and government? Remember: Greed is the humans greatest weakness.

[GrandHustle]

Land is a stupid thing to fight over? Would we be here if we didn't have land? How many civilizations would have survived if they didn't have good land suitable for farming? Nobody fights over a few yards of land. The least might be a few miles, and usually there's an important natural resource in that patch of land. If there isn't, then it's stupid.

Usually when people fight, it's because they want something. If a leader of a land (let's take our president) wanted to invade another country to seize more land, Mr. Bush could not simply dispatch troops because he wanted to. Most of the people dying in the war over at Iraq, for an example, are doing so because they believe that they are fighting for the good of the United States. If we were to have a dictator, however... it would be different. Or communism.

Lastly... nobody is going to take someone's life (except in extreme, EXTREME cases), or "torture" someone, in self defense.

If you're saying that the world could be a better place, however, I would have to agree with you. Are we going to ever achieve a Utopian society, however? No. Very unlikely.

[Oisterman]

Property is theft, possession is murder, and owning is a crime. Personally, I believe land is for everyone, and no one person owns it. Its impossible to own a plot of land, so theres no need to wage war over something. I don't support boarders or boundaries, and I don't support rules and regulations. Am I being a stereotypical teen? Yes. Am I doing it better than any other teen? Absolutely. I UNDERSTAND the things I support, unlike most others.

Oh, and, in a capitalist society, everyone is looking out for number one. Number one being the almighty dollar- which is sad in its self.


Complaining will do nothing by the way, but, you asked.

[cartography]

tip : use spaces when you post, i hate reading a paragraph of 9 sentences
so i didnt read it at all

[wwenbo]

Firstly I am NOT a emo,goth,gangster or any-other social groups I'm just a 14 year old boy who hangs out with a group of 3 other people. I made this post to see if other people have the same thoughts on the subject personally in the last couple of weeks from watching the news and learning thing from histroy, such has slavary,ww1/2 and other world changing events I do knw that these people only make up a part of the world, but lately it seems they have started to out number the respectable people in the world I've started to lose faith in humanity. First I'll start with the universal declaration of human rights many things in the declaration are being broken, I can understand human natural and the reason why some of these things are being broken but things such as torture and taking the life of another human being unless for self defence is sick and twisted. second people wage wars over the stupidest of things for an example land, which can be talked over i have to say the dumbest of people are in control of the world at this moment. They act like children waging war over land i can understand why they wage war but I personally think that if you have to have a war and kill many of the kind and brave people of your country for a couple miles or yards or whatever of land your kind of perfetic if you want the land so bad risk your own life for it not others. anyway that's what i think of it what are you guys thoughts?

that's pretty much how nature works. It is in our instinct to do that type of stuff. living things need to be selfish to survive its just the way we evolved i guess. All this talk about the morality of these things is probably just that our society has evolved faster than ourselves.

[AbysmalGuilt]

When I say communist heads, I mean the people that support communism. Like a lot of people on this forum, are like 14 yrs old and say go communism! >_> Probably haven't even taken one government class.

And back to the OP, just be who you think is a "good person" that's the best you can do sometimes.

[Deimos]

When I say communist heads, I mean the people that support communism. Like a lot of people on this forum, are like 14 yrs old and say go communism! >_> Probably haven't even taken one government class

point taken.

but dont assume that because its a gaming forum that everyone here has absolutely no idea whatsoever of what they are talking about.

[hian]

At the politics part:

What kind of system we adopt has nothing to do with it. A political system alone isn't even close to being able to stop the problems of humans. It's not the systems that are flawed that causes the problems, it's the humans. Humans are too different, and those who are greedy, uncaring, or just plain stupid, **** up everything.

It's the human factor. You can never please everyone and thus there will always be conflict. Even a dictatorship could work if the person who rules could rule in everyone's best interest. Similarly, communism could work if everyone was set at sharing and working hard. That's not the case however, so unfortunately both types fail.
This is why communism is completely flawed. It doesn't take into account the human flaws, and so it has to be combined with a fascistic rule in order to enforce it's survival. The part of communism that works, works because of the fascistic elements, which is ironic when you think about how communism is suppose to give power to the people...

However, I don't support democracy either. Democracy is just a nice word for mob-mentality and rule. Take a gang-****, four men versus one woman. That's democracy at it's best.
And when it's obvious that the majority of humans are a bunch of ignorant, biased idiots, then why would anyone with a modicum of intelligence submit to the will of the masses?

In the end, I believe only those who prove themselves as superior men have the right to to rule, if any one is to rule at all. Of course, I'm not sure if anyone should rule. Maybe people should just take care of themselves, and live of favour/refavour system. I don't really care, in the end, I'll do my best to ensure my own future, and the future for those I love, and try to leave others alone to live their own lives.

At topic:

That a large portion of humanity is screwed is no big news. It's always been like that. All you can do, is to try your best to be a good person, and serve as a good example for the comming generations.
By contributing to improving your own culture, the ring-effects might make a difference some day.

That's what I believe anyways. In the end, I think it's the bad culture that corrupts the mind of humans which ensure the continuity of human problems.
If we could somehow break the cycle and do away with the bad factors of our cultures, I believe the earth would be a better place to live.

[Chaotix]

all this war stuff ur talkin about, that IS humanity
it seems to me that your idea of humanity is that "happy, everybody is good and friendly" bullshit they show on disney channel.
REALITY CHECK: war is something that humans have had since we came on to this planet
you are basically saying that you have lost faith in something that never existed (the friendly kind of humanity)

[Kenshiro]

There hasn't been a war over land in a long time. Right now the big thing is "War on terror". Every country is built on war and blood. It's the nature of all living things. Watch the Discovery channel the lions have their territory and they fight for it to give their family a home. Same with humans just on a larger scale. Just now days everyone is turning into a tree hugging yippie and no wars are being fought for land or resources.

[Xenonight2]

that's pretty much how nature works. It is in our instinct to do that type of stuff. living things need to be selfish to survive its just the way we evolved i guess. All this talk about the morality of these things is probably just that our society has evolved faster than ourselves.

That's most likely right. For greed to be inherent in virtually all Human beings, it must serve some evolutionary purpose.

For civilization and the individual living in civilization, greed is mostly a bad thing. For the survival of the species in general, short of nuking for selfish reasons, yes, it's good for us. Competition is healthy for natural selection. I don't mean that like Social Darwinism, just general natural selection.

[Marineking]

Humanity is ruled by ideas. Not instinct, or nature, or original sin, but ideas. What we think of as "instinct" is really just thousands of years of cultural brainwashing. In the end, it's the ideas that those instincts are made of that rule us, and in an intelligent society, the right ideas will always have a chance. You just have to find them.

Now, for my two (Or three...) cents on politics.

I believe that the only government that can work is a small one, like the kind of government the U.S. was supposed to have, but then Lincoln came in and blew it apart. A government should be in charge of protecting it's citizens against internal violence (Running a just police force; dealing with criminals and enforcing a just system of law; etc) and external violence (Defense against foreign invasion, but never starting invasion of it's own). Everything else should be left to the people who are living in their own societies, and ultimately people should be left alone as long as they are not hurting anyone else (This is a very simplistic way of stating it, I know, but I doubt anyone wants to read four paragraphs of me running on).

In short, the ultimate free society, where a man is free to live as he wants as long as he is not harming the way of life of other men.

[shadowsworn]

@ Marineking

That's interesting. My concern with that sort of idea is that a small government would have little control over, and would probably end up being controlled by, big business, which is only interested in the bottom line, and not about human rights or protecting the environment.