Help ME build a computer.

[xXDeathzJrXx]

I need to build a good gaming computer for 1000$

MOBO:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059 95$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127030 180$

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028280$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017 280$

Graphic Card: any where from 100~300$

Sound Card: less than 50$

Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136012 170$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136075 50$

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145043 121$

Fans: less than 20$
Case: less than 100$

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182017 50$

DVD drive: less than 50$

Questions
Do I need more than 550W to run a quad core and a 8800GT?
How many fans do I need? I heard 8800 GT overheats very easily.
280$ for 3.0ghz Duo Core or 2.4ghz Quad core?
Can you build liquid cooling? Is it hard? How much will it cost? Is it worth it?
When does Geforce 9 Series comes out? Any time soon?
Is there a 8800GT 256 MB?
10,000 RPM or 7,200 RPM for HD?
Can 2 cheaper graphic card in SLI beat one 8800GT?
XP or Vista?

Please answer the questions and pick a good case for me, and to give you an idea how much my PC suck right now...

Edited: New questions

Should I wait for the 9 series? Will the 8 series lower the price when 9 comes out?

[xXDeathzJrXx]

When does new Quad core coming out? and will the new GTS beat 8800 GT?

[Piggy-Bank]

I'm not really that interested in hardware, so my answers might not be right. Please excuse me it they are wrong.

Do I need more than 550W to run a quad core and a 8800GT?

I believe you will be fine.

Power Requirements of 8800 GT: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/...gt/page14.html

Power Requirements of a Quad-Core:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/...770/page2.html

How many fans do I need? I heard 8800 GT overheats very easily.

You'll only need one if you get a high performance fan such as a Zalman CNPS9700, but I don't think you're going to need anything that powerful. Two or three small fans should do fine; granted you're not going to be putting your new graphics card to the test.

280$ for 3.0ghz Duo Core or 2.4ghz Quad core?

I suggest Dual Core because there aren't many applications out there that utilize a Quad Core just yet.

Can you build liquid cooling? Is it hard? How much will it cost? Is it worth it?

From what I've heard; it's quite simple, and also cheaper then it sounds.

Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...=Water-Cooling

Guides on Water Cooling: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...l-threads.html

When does Geforce 9 Series comes out? Any time soon?

Sometime next year.

Is there a 8800GT 256 MB?

Nope. See a full list of graphic cards at http://www.nvidia.com/object/graphic...s_buy_now.html

I'd suggest getting a 8500 because not only will you be able to run DX10, but it's a lot cheaper then a 8800 GT.

10,000 RPM or 7,200 RPM for HD?

7,200 RPM is good enough. No need to shell out the extra money. I don't think you'll even see a difference.

Can 2 cheaper graphic card in SLI beat one 8800GT?

Perhaps; you'll have to look into the benchmarks. I still suggest getting a 8500.

XP or Vista?

If you want to use DX10, get Vista. Otherwise; Windows XP. SP3 is coming out soon, and you'll be able to get a few Vista features. Vista just isn't that great yet. Perhaps Vienna will be better.

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Again, not all the things I say are correct. Perhaps someone could double check.

[xXDeathzJrXx]

Wow thanks alot Piggy. I want to play COD 4 and battle field on high setting so I really need that 8800GT

[Rendascus]

Piggy summed it up, I guess. Piggy, If we can still rep: +1 for you man, +1 for you...

Btw, Death, if you want a better computer, search a relatively same topic, with me, as the thread starter. I too, had practically the same budget. The guys helped me out a lot.

[Fox Company]

yeah the new GTS will beat the GT,itll have more stream processors and a WAY HIGHER clock than the GT itll out by december

[Rendascus]

I agree in everything with piggy except in the 8500, that graphics card is worthless for most games, you must point higher than 8600GT-GTS and beyond to run every game on the market as god intended to

about the vista, it depends wether you like graphics over stability, I suggest XP as most DX 10 games don't even run well on vista quite the irony

and probably 2 8600GTS would be a single 8800GT bur for the price, it's better, cheaper and far more reliable to get a single 8800GT or even an ati HD3870

about the water cooling, it all depends if you are going for high overclockability, if you are not that kind of user, don't even waste your money on water cooling just get a few fans and you'll be alright

I suggest the contrary on the CPU, the quad core has almost the same price as the dual core and it will lasst you for the whole next year and even beyond, but that's mostly about preferences, IMO I would pick the quad core (in fact I am planning on ordering one in december)

Would the 8500 be able to run counter strike source: on high? uhm...half life 2...fear....uhm......that other game, mass effect?

[Runahs]

Would the 8500 be able to run counter strike source: on high? uhm...half life 2...fear....uhm......that other game, mass effect?

Mass Effect hasn't even been confirmed for the PC yet... As of right now its 360 only.


Anyways I'm not great with computers so I wouldn't know sorry :P (at op)

[xXDeathzJrXx]

I agree in everything with piggy except in the 8500, that graphics card is worthless for most games, you must point higher than 8600GT-GTS and beyond to run every game on the market as god intended to

about the vista, it depends wether you like graphics over stability, I suggest XP as most DX 10 games don't even run well on vista quite the irony

and probably 2 8600GTS would be a single 8800GT bur for the price, it's better, cheaper and far more reliable to get a single 8800GT or even an ati HD3870

about the water cooling, it all depends if you are going for high overclockability, if you are not that kind of user, don't even waste your money on water cooling just get a few fans and you'll be alright

I suggest the contrary on the CPU, the quad core has almost the same price as the dual core and it will lasst you for the whole next year and even beyond, but that's mostly about preferences, IMO I would pick the quad core (in fact I am planning on ordering one in december)

I just saw the guide on water cooling and it is hard. I am not a overclocker I just want to run FPS on good~high setting with a acceptable fps. As for OS I think I will go with XP and still can't decide between a Quad or a Duo. Btw how much is the new GTS? is it like 400$? If it is then Im going with the GT

Its 12 here so thanks for all the suggestions good nite.

[Mordar]

Would the 8500 be able to run counter strike source: on high? uhm...half life 2...fear....uhm......that other game, mass effect?

probably up-till fear on very low settings at 800x600 which means a VERY horrible game

I just saw the guide on water cooling and it is hard. I am not a overclocker I just want to run FPS on good~high setting with a acceptable fps. As for OS I think I will go with XP and still can't decide between a Quad or a Duo. Btw how much is the new GTS? is it like 400$? If it is then Im going with the GT

I suggest you look for the new ATI HD 3850 and 3870 they are pretty cheap and very worth the price, if not then get a 8600GTS or 8800GT if you have the money

[PowerGamer]

Heres my suggestion for a 1000$ computer:

CPU: Right now this CPU offers the best gaming performance, lack of multiple core support in most games (And 'to-be released' games as well)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115028
$279.99

Graphics:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130301
(EVGA KO 8800GT, restock on 26, if you are looking to buy from Newegg)
$309.99

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227139
$72.99
(Right now, there is no good performance difference between 1066 and 800, because there isn't a CPU that handles all that bandwidth)

Hard Drive: (16MB buffer)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136062
$59.99

Case: (Or pick something in the price range you like)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147033
$39.99

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059
$94.99

PSU: (I saw your post, don't get a cheap PSU, they can harm the hardware and wear out really fast).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194015
$94.99

DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827151153
31.99

Final Price:
$985

For your questions,
1 -You dont need 550W, the minimun is 450, but 400W works fine, as long as you have the voltages.
2- If you get 2 cheapers cards then you also need a motherboard that is a lot more expensive, go with the one 8800GT,
its a really good card.
3 - (I explained about the Quad and Duo ^^)
4- The 8800GT is built to handle high temps so don't worry about it, if anything DOES happen, you've got warranty,
and the case I picked has 2x120MM fans, you're good to go.
5- No there isnt a 8800GT 256, yet?
6 - Its better to get 7200 16MB buffer than 10000RPM 8MB buffer.
7 - Both. xp and vista, dual boot them
8- Last I heard about Geforce 9 was Q3 2008???
9 - Liquid cooling can be dangerous (if a tube explodes, your computer drowns :P ) so I don't recommend it for starters...

[Mordar]

Naw.

My 6600 handled F.E.A.R on very low settings at 800X600. I'm sure the 8500 can handle much more than that.

actually the different between the 6600 and the 8500 is almost none, so no, they can handle equally, that's why the low range from nvidia sucks so much

[xXDeathzJrXx]

Thanks modar and power gamer! All i need to know is the price of the new GTS.

edited:

ehh... 375$ not going to get it.

Btw is there any PCI-E 2.0 MOBO?

[Mordar]

just a final word, 10 thousands dollars? man, you GOT to wait for a good college, with that kind of money you could buy a NASA-like pc and you won't never, EVER regret not having a ps3, or even a ps4, x720 or a nintendo WOOZOOMSWING