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    Default Do you think Aion deserves to be P2P?

    I think it does. I think if it has a chance of keeping up with the big dogs, and acually make reliable funds, it needs to be. I would sub to it. However if it goes to ftp, I am sure most paying customers will not stay, and overall it wont do as well as it should.

    I mainly want it go to p2p because it can afford to keep the lagg down by not having freeloaders, and acually better servers. Then you got the mentality in game of it being a even playing field, and the game itself is attracting alot of attention from hardcore western mmorpg gamers.

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    F2P games can never really get *big*. So yeah, if the game is really good, then P2P is the way to go.

    IMO: Don't think it does.

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    NCsoft brought most of the new features in MMORPG.. email support , 14.99 price tag , free expansion , free game download. Rather cheap collector's box (I got my box with the winged race for 41.00 US , included some nice items and in game item.. i think a mask? dont remember.

    I think NCsoft is gonna attempt something new with this MMORPG. I m gonna bet on either of 2 options :

    1) Free to play service on 1 or 2 servers , with a time limit of 30 hours a week, with a special item mall for this server. The remaining servers will be p2p with a 17.99 to 20.00 fee.

    2) Free to play service , with a Dungeon Runner style service , if you pay you get access to more areas , free expansion , bigger bags, greater collection of weapons/gear, access to different classes, and better xp rates. The service will take a step in another direction , you will be about to get 12.00 a month or 3 months for 9.99 each

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    Aion is P2P
    NCsoft alraedy made this statement for the Asian market.
    don't think that NCsoft is going to publish Aion as an f2p in the West ...

    the only thing they're doing diffirent is focussing their gameplaymodel more to a western market, rather than an asian => more casual, less of a grind

    besides sabertooth, 20 USD/month, are you insane? that's WAY too overpriced.
    considering the EU doesn't recalculate USD pricing to EUR, instead, they simply replace USD with EUR, making that a 20 euros monthly fee, that would be near 30 USD if you calculate it back. Good luck on that ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by neothaka View Post
    Aion is P2P
    NCsoft alraedy made this statement for the Asian market.
    don't think that NCsoft is going to publish Aion as an f2p in the West ...

    the only thing they're doing diffirent is focussing their gameplaymodel more to a western market, rather than an asian => more casual, less of a grind

    besides sabertooth, 20 USD/month, are you insane? that's WAY too overpriced.
    considering the EU doesn't recalculate USD pricing to EUR, instead, they simply replace USD with EUR, making that a 20 euros monthly fee, that would be near 30 USD if you calculate it back. Good luck on that ....
    Looks like i will have to pre-order this damn game then.. Oh well.

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    P2P is to earn money ofcourse but also needed to pay for the servers, if it get's big (which they want to) they'll need the money.

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    Aion definitely needs to be p2p, without a doubt


    otherwise the game will consist of leachers who don't want to pay like me

    (although if the game is as good as it looks, i wouldn't mind paying )

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    Why don't they make it b2p :X

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    it will be 9 dollers a month i dont think it will be any less than that. The chances of this being f2p were 0 anywayz and like neo said its already been announced

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    and then what?
    honestly, i'd prefer p2p and free download, that at least saves me 50 euros alltogether.

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    unless it turns out to be another bomb like autofail. Then it gets shut down and life goes on.

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    Honestly I wish it wasnt P2p Or F2p
    But B2p
    No montly fee but once to buy..

    (they can also be b2p + shop..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyarume View Post
    Honestly I wish it wasnt P2p Or F2p
    But B2p
    No montly fee but once to buy..

    (they can also be b2p + shop..)
    that would be sucky. only reason to make it b2p is if NCSOFT thinks people cant afford the p2p. do you think they will be able to afford a cash shop then? and besides it would ruin the game, if some richy rich bought the whole shop. and then they would have to say bye bye to aion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asskicker View Post
    Why don't they make it b2p :X
    Because they wont get as much money....P2P is the best way for this.
    F2P=More players(SOMETIMES) P2p=Less childish players and a more mature community(SOMETIMES)*Turns back on WoW*

    Maplestory for example dont get me started....But they actually make more money than WoW. Even with WoW's lump of 2.5 million active players Maplestory has less players but everyday someone buys NX cash Usually in large quantities.


    Personally I'd rather wait for Guild Wars 2 it sounds like it will be very good for a b2p

    @Saber LOL omg....I have to agree with Cyber...Just because of AION and WAR youre saying that them combined will cause many games to shut down. That is very stupid. People still prefer F2p too you know. And where the hell did you get paying for TR beta?
    I was in the Beta and I paid nothing.

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    B2p + b2p expensions...
    I like that more becuase i like a box too ^^

    Or f2p but with a good anti hack.. anti bot system...
    F2p is the best way, because u can easy ask ure friends to join you..
    I like playing with friends.. i know in real life...(Online friends too ofcourse ^^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyarume View Post
    B2p + b2p expensions...
    I like that more becuase i like a box too ^^


    Or f2p but with a good anti hack.. anti bot system...
    F2p is the best way, because u can easy ask ure friends to join you..
    I like playing with friends.. i know in real life...(Online friends too ofcourse ^^)
    that would be awesome. but since gw2 is coming out ( which is probly b2p) i dont guess they will do that.

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    Hmm.. even ncsoft hasnt decided yet.. so lets wait..
    But this is A mmo that is DEVED by ncsoft..
    GW isnt
    L2 Isnt
    TR isnt..

    Ect..

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    I dont know about warrock but the service at sword and gamersfirst is top notch...

    Aion hasnt been p2p announced...
    (Korean site says undetermined)
    and ncsoft hasnt released that data yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyarume View Post
    F2p CAN have Great service
    Great Updates
    Great Expensions

    Acclaim (TOP custumer support)
    YNK (TOP)
    K2 (custemer support is sooo good.. And expensions big updates ect.. for there games)

    It depends on the company..
    F2p games have expensions but the developer/company needs to patch it aswell..

    Actualy F2p earns more... More ppl (cash)
    Yeah its true..

    and p2p is dying

    I rather play a mmo like a mmo not like the emty worlds like most p2p games...
    YOu once again need to come out of your sad little fantasy. The companies you have used as an example of good F2P publishers are very poor examples.

    None of the examples you have given produce any premium services compared to P2P. All of them are below par and only care about the customers who invest in their item malls.

    As for P2P having empty servers, that far from true. I dont know what P2P games you have been playing but everythnig I play are always busy.

    F2P has rarely proven anything to be good. Even if the examples you have posted were close to being good, they are not even a thimble full to prove what I say is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyarume View Post
    F2p CAN have Great service
    Great Updates
    Great Expensions

    Acclaim (TOP custumer support)
    YNK (TOP)
    K2 (custemer support is sooo good.. And expensions big updates ect.. for there games)

    It depends on the company..
    F2p games have expensions but the developer/company needs to patch it aswell..

    Actualy F2p earns more... More ppl (cash)
    Yeah its true..

    and p2p is dying

    I rather play a mmo like a mmo not like the emty worlds like most p2p games...
    The large text made me laugh....Their customer is top notch poor.
    When i was playing 2 moons i asked them a simple question and NEVER to this date got a reply back.

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    Mxerdude to begin with , RF Online and Archlord are facing a major crisis. If you ve followed them recently , RF Online and Archlord had massive , inrepairable fruad done to them.

    Codemasters makes little to no moves to improve the game. Late last year they lost console control in RF Online.

    They ve shut down , and refunded the CS serveral times since Oct. Some of the gilbuyers they ban for duping, were allowed back into the game , that is how badly they need players.

    If you followed the eelection , or the gold market in game , Cora had 2 months in a row of spikes of 60% to 75% tax before Codemasters.

    Aion is making its way as a war / siege game. Currently DAOC , Lineage 2 , Archlord and RF Online are the major seige folks. You also have to look at Aion, making no new developments other than graphics, so thier core market is going to come from existing games.

    Further more , NCsoft US does a horrible job of marketing. They target places where paid gamers hang out, Fileplanet for one.

    They havent an been active with thier core base , such as Guru , and Warcry owner.

    To the guy with the Go bot logo -

    NCsoft is a publisher , NCsoft Korea is publisher and developer. NCsoft US has a single programmer staff for Lineage 1 , which uses HTML for thier major changes.

    NCsoft Korea has developed a single engine which is rarely used , TR is the first game that used it. Furthermore they have licensed engines from Epic 2 , Epic 3 , Cryptic engine , and an engine called LinuxStar (for moblie devices, PDAs , and PSP type devices.)

    NCsoft Korea soaks up small publishers, right now they are publishing for independant developers who retain thier idenity and staff , freedom over the game development.

    Ncsoft Korea has also bought out serveral minor studios and games in the moblie device area. They dont any work but on Lineage 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maoc389 View Post
    Why don't they go the way of RO where they give you 15 days of free time, afterwards you have to pay? that way everyone who tries it who likes it could p2p, while the others don't.

    I don't really know the schemantics of the marketing scene, but it would seem that its the most logical thing to do. heck, wow even gave their players a free month to get them hooked.

    That way people can look forward to the release, then if they don't like it after two weeks, they don't have ot go about canceling subscriptions and losing money already spent.
    If its p2p, retail, then it will have a 30 day free. You will however need to pay 50 bucks first, then you have 30 days to determine if you want to make a sub.

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    I will say what i think again.


    I think aion should go p2p if they want to survive. The graphics, size, and support along with the development speed warrents the step up, and I believe they shall be rewarded if they do.

    I am for a Retail + p2p, with a free 14 day trial after the first 30 days. This is so those who invest the initial money have the ability to get settled and see the game without a ton of people going in treating it like some OB taint the experience. After 30 days, then the ones who refuse to pay first can check it out, and those who did pay will be on their way and thus uneffected by the newbies flooding in.

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    just to bring up Lotro (again ...)
    but with Lotro Turbine demonstrates what the quality of a high budget game and monthly fee can be. Lotro isn't out for a year by now, so i reckon it's to be counted as a "new one".

    i can give you the patch notes of monthly free content and compare that with things like RF, ...

    as far as botting goes, that depends on the measures taken from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neothaka View Post
    just to bring up Lotro (again ...)
    but with Lotro Turbine demonstrates what the quality of a high budget game and monthly fee can be. Lotro isn't out for a year by now, so i reckon it's to be counted as a "new one".

    i can give you the patch notes of monthly free content and compare that with things like RF, ...

    as far as botting goes, that depends on the measures taken from the start.
    Someone told me that they could sit around a campfire and smoke for weed <i dont mean literally> and do a pokemon arena deal..

    I plan to check that shit out sometime, but I just cant fit it into my p2p routine yet.

    Always wanted to walk around and ask all the non hobbits if "Touched by a hobbit?"

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