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    Quote Originally Posted by Phr0zen View Post
    Well, there is no way that you can be sure that nothing will happen, just like no one can be sure that something will happen.

    Unless of course you had a time machine. If so, can I have one too?

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    (PS - I doubt anything will happen either, but I do accept that there is a possiblity that something may happen)
    yes you can be sure, you can rule out almost everything

    comets - no because we would have seen it coming by now

    global warming/noahs flood - no because that isnt going to happen in four years time

    worldwide revolution/nuclear war - not going to happen given todays state of politics

    you can be far more certain that something is NOT going to happen than you can for saying something WILL happen.

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    Well according to Assassins Creed there will be modern day Templars trying to find ancient artifacts to gain power and take over the world oh, and also kill all the assassins.


    According to me.... It will just be any other year.

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    methane will rise from the oceans and explode killing everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    yes you can be sure, you can rule out almost everything

    comets - no because we would have seen it coming by now

    global warming/noahs flood - no because that isnt going to happen in four years time

    worldwide revolution/nuclear war - not going to happen given todays state of politics

    you can be far more certain that something is NOT going to happen than you can for saying something WILL happen.
    Well, assumptions can be made using various data sources to predict certain things as you say, or more accurately that certain things will not happen.

    However, it would be ignorant of us to believe that we know even a fraction of what the world/universe holds. There is more that we do not understand than that which we do.

    This uncertainty will always create a probability, even if unlikely, that a given scenario may happen.

    Any who, my point is that it is possible that Nostradamus, the Mayans, etc did in fact predict accurately the end of the world in 2012. Even if the chance is only 0.00000001%, it is still possible. Something as epic as the end of the world is probably out of our comprehension, or ability to predict one way or the other anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phr0zen View Post
    Well, assumptions can be made using various data sources to predict certain things as you say, or more accurately that certain things will not happen.

    However, it would be ignorant of us to believe that we know even a fraction of what the world/universe holds. There is more that we do not understand than that which we do.

    This uncertainty will always create a probability, even if unlikely, that a given scenario may happen.

    Any who, my point is that it is possible that Nostradamus, the Mayans, etc did in fact predict accurately the end of the world in 2012. Even if the chance is only 0.00000001%, it is still possible. Something as epic as the end of the world is probably out of our comprehension, or ability to predict one way or the other anyway.
    no. people get bored with their own humdrum existence and dreary lives so they like to dream up fantastical posibilities to make their existence more exciting.

    all predictions of disaster are self fulfilling prophecies. we hear about the sucessful predictions because its all in the media. the thing is that most people forget that for every successful prediction there are thousands of unsuccessful ones. but believers cling to this tiny shard of pseudo-evidence as a chance of real proof.

    nobody ever sees change coming. its usually only with hindsight that things become clearer. predictions of the end of the world are a crock of alarmist shite. the only way i can see them being useful is for insurance companies who could play up to the hype and get everyone of their customers to pay for "end of the world protection paint, one coat is guaranteed to protect you and yours from all biblical/natural/supernatural apocalypses"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    no. people get bored with their own humdrum existence and dreary lives so they like to dream up fantastical posibilities to make their existence more exciting.

    all predictions of disaster are self fulfilling prophecies. we hear about the sucessful predictions because its all in the media. the thing is that most people forget that for every successful prediction there are thousands of unsuccessful ones. but believers cling to this tiny shard of pseudo-evidence as a chance of real proof.

    nobody ever sees change coming. its usually only with hindsight that things become clearer. predictions of the end of the world are a crock of alarmist shite. the only way i can see them being useful is for insurance companies who could play up to the hype and get everyone of their customers to pay for "end of the world protection paint, one coat is guaranteed to protect you and yours from all biblical/natural/supernatural apocalypses"
    Don't get me wrong Deimos. I agree with your train of thought completely.

    The amount of predictions people make is astounding, and usually vague enough that they can be stretched to fit just about any scenario if you wanted. Take for instance the Nostradamus (I think it was him) that predicted the 9/11 incident. I won't bother copy and pasting the prediction, but the translation and interpretation of the prediction fits very well with the 9/11 event. BUT, the thing is, that it was not precise enough to actually predict it, only in hindsight (as you mentioned) were we able to "fit" this prediction with the event. Basically making the prediction useless.

    No doubt drugs or dementia plays a part in these 'prophets' as well. I know I could get wacked on hallucinogens and predict a whole mess of crap vaguely enough that it would eventually come true given enough time passes.

    I still like to believe that humans are capable of more than we currently understand though so I will not entirely rule out the potential that someone has the ability to predict or see future events. 99.999999% chance humans cannot do such things, but keeping an open mind to the possibility allows for a better understanding of all things.

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