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    Default Chinese Medecine vs Western Medecine.

    It;s kind of a small debate in Canada lately after the new health system where the gouverment gives the privilige of getting chinese medecine. Although it's not entirely implented, it was a good news for the chinese doctrine community.


    Many thinks that Chinese Medecine is a very unreliable way to seek for recovery but those who actually know their stuff knows that it's a method employed over thousands of years ago.


    So what is your point of view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    It;s kind of a small debate in Canada lately after the new health system where the gouverment gives the privilige of getting chinese medecine. Although it's not entirely implented, it was a good news for the chinese doctrine community.


    Many thinks that Chinese Medecine is a very unreliable way to seek for recovery but those who actually know their stuff knows that it's a method employed over thousands of years ago.


    So what is your point of view?
    whats the difference? i know you say western vs chinese but do you realy mean:

    western vs new age

    or

    western vs old kooky shit

    or

    western "go after a pimple with a nuke" vs iff it aints brokes donts fixes it

    i dont get it

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    MEDECINE....geez....hard to understand? o.o....

    Doctors and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    MEDECINE....geez....hard to understand? o.o....

    Doctors and stuff.
    ok well then i prefer western medicine

    id rather be treated in a state which is run by public funding in a society based on democratic elections rather than a former communist fascist state run by oppression and state communism.

    long live the NHS

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    I think it's something worth exploring. When I think of Chinese medicine, I think of it being no more different to a pharmaceutical equivalent, minus the side-effects. Besides, what makes it all the more worth giving a shot, is it's history of being around for thousands of years, it's something not easily to write off as nonsense, in my opinion.

    Would you rather hear:

    "Take this drug, it'll relieve your migraine, but you may lose your appetite, get drowsy, and experience nausea, and/or diarrhea. Enjoy."

    Or:

    "Take this [Chinese Medicine] to relieve your migraine. Enjoy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    ok well then i prefer western medicine

    id rather be treated in a state which is run by public funding in a society based on democratic elections rather than a former communist fascist state run by oppression and state communism.

    long live the NHS

    Your argument is super inductive.
    Gouverment has nothing to do with medecine...

    @Remus.

    Well, that's what I think. Some claims that they don't want chinese medecine because they didn't get "proper" and "real" education on medecine and it's absolutely biased that some herbs put together can heal...but when i think about it. This method survived millenia, absolutely natural and does not need as much money to be applied....except the taste...I like chinese medecine more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Your argument is super inductive.
    Gouverment has nothing to do with medecine...

    @Remus.

    Well, that's what I think. Some claims that they don't want chinese medecine because they didn't get "proper" and "real" education on medecine and it's absolutely biased that some herbs put together can heal...but when i think about it. This method survived millenia, absolutely natural and does not need as much money to be applied....except the taste...I like chinese medecine more...
    well you asked east or west

    and god as my witness id rather be treated in the west.

    so theres my answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    @Remus.

    Well, that's what I think. Some claims that they don't want chinese medecine because they didn't get "proper" and "real" education on medecine and it's absolutely biased that some herbs put together can heal...but when i think about it. This method survived millenia, absolutely natural and does not need as much money to be applied....except the taste...I like chinese medecine more...
    I can understand why some here in the West would feel that way, about their practice, but also, as you just stated, it alone has passed through difficult situations. That should, as one would think, have something to say about Chinese medicine's potential properties, with low "manufacturing" costs, it could be a good alternative for those of low income individuals/families.

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    how come I never see Chinese medicine on commercials? If the medicine survives for many years then how did they conduct proper research and testing to see the results?
    Western Medicines are properly research and have better labs.

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    @ Espada

    I can't give a logical response to why Chinese Medicine isn't shown on commercials. So I'll use a quote from comedian Chris Rock's "Never Scared" stand up routine:

    "Don't use THEIR drugs, use OUR drugs!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serix View Post
    Responding to espada, he said that if chinese medicine had survived for all these years why hadn't there been any research, and the point of that is because it actually work, if chinese medicine was a hoax we would have hung the witch doctors by their hairy balls long ago.
    Research takes quite a while and there's quite a big branch of chinese medecine that was proven to be right and more natural than western medecine. There are lots of researchs done already...however..."ehhhh becuz chinese people made it, they would be biased so we don't accept it. We'll do research and we'll see...* 10 years later* we plan to do a research. *10 more years * we're going to start *another 10 years * we're getting funds* freaking decades after * Ah...we're too busy doing our own research for western stuff...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Deimos...are you high on something?? You don't get it....

    CHINESE medecine vs WESTERN medecine....not the country but the way medecine are praticed by Chinese or the western....blablabla.
    well i asked you to explain but you did not elaborate the facts. also im naab


    i still choose western medicine. i mean the WHO is based on western countries, asia only gave us SARS and bridflu.

    Id rather trust the west. theres a chinese clinic near me but i wouldnt want to go near it.

    based on what i know about chinese medicine id rather go see a conventional doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Research takes quite a while and there's quite a big branch of chinese medecine that was proven to be right and more natural than western medecine. There are lots of researchs done already...however..."ehhhh becuz chinese people made it, they would be biased so we don't accept it. We'll do research and we'll see...* 10 years later* we plan to do a research. *10 more years * we're going to start *another 10 years * we're getting funds* freaking decades after * Ah...we're too busy doing our own research for western stuff...


    =.=
    that exactly being my point if you bothered to read rather than expand on it with a sarcastically whimsical remark at the end

    =.=

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    chinese medicine like herbs and tea?

    i perfer chinese medicine, not because im chinese, but because it usually works,for me at least

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    I dont care what anyone says. Russia P-W-N-S everything up the butthole.
    They're superior at alot of things.

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    There are numerous sources that Chinese medicines uses a lot of animal product too. Like for example: rhinoceros horn, shark fin, bear bile.
    A lot of the animals that are used in Chinese medicines are endangered.

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    That may bear some truth, Espada, though throughout this thread I'm assuming we're all talking about Herbology's propeties, as that tends to be a more common practice in the West. At least as far as I know, there are no Traditional Chinese Shacks selling Bear Bile around here.

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    i prefer western for common sickness like cold, fever etc.

    but chinese medicine is good for rheumatism etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    I think it's something worth exploring. When I think of Chinese medicine, I think of it being no more different to a pharmaceutical equivalent, minus the side-effects. Besides, what makes it all the more worth giving a shot, is it's history of being around for thousands of years, it's something not easily to write off as nonsense, in my opinion.

    Would you rather hear:

    "Take this drug, it'll relieve your migraine, but you may lose your appetite, get drowsy, and experience nausea, and/or diarrhea. Enjoy."

    Or:

    "Take this [Chinese Medicine] to relieve your migraine. Enjoy."
    No. Thats pretty stupid. It would be more like.

    "Take this drug, have two a day, it will relieve your migraine, side effects: Drowsy."



    Now the Chinese, "Take this mashed up leaf, rub it on stomache and recite poem, then stroke lucky cricket and hop on one foot. Side effects inculde Death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civil View Post
    No. Thats pretty stupid. It would be more like.

    "Take this drug, have two a day, it will relieve your migraine, side effects: Drowsy."



    Now the Chinese, "Take this mashed up leaf, rub it on stomache and recite poem, then stroke lucky cricket and hop on one foot. Side effects inculde Death."

    Tell me thats not hilarious.

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    It's a fact that western medicine cures people.

    As for Chinese medicine, well, I doubt it has such a beneficial effect, I think of it as giving more of a placebo effect.

    That being said there are still many things we are yet to learn about the body.

    I'm sure there are herbs which can sure illnesses, however until I get absolute proof that it works I'm sticking with the medicine which goes through a rather lengthy trial to see if it works or not before it's given to humans.

    And besides alternatives medicines aren't completely covered under the NHS.
    And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear.

    You shout and no one seems to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOp View Post
    i prefer western for common sickness like cold, fever etc.

    but chinese medicine is good for rheumatism etc etc
    Western medicine is best when seriously ill, chinese medicine is probably best when you have a minor medical condition, which would encompass both of those factors. Chinese medicine is just more therapeutic afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowOp
    i prefer western for common sickness like cold, fever etc.

    but chinese medicine is good for rheumatism etc etc
    Same here, and the chinese cough syrup works like a charm

    Quote Originally Posted by Civil
    Now the Chinese, "Take this mashed up leaf, rub it on stomache and recite poem, then stroke lucky cricket and hop on one foot. Side effects inculde Death."
    Keep up with time.

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    Most people falsely believe that herbs and "natural" supplements don't have side effects.

    Many of those types of products contain several ingredients that when used in excess or by someone with a say an allergy to them, are susceptable to a number of terrible side effects. Also, keep in mind that some of them are not tested throughly enough to determine such side effects.

    Just something to consider when comparing herbs to western medicines, neither of them are truly safe, but at least with western medicines they have been through many more tests to determine these things.

    I've read about some chinese remedies causing extreme illnesses and such because of some of the ingredients, even strokes and other types of brain damage are not uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espada1 View Post
    how come I never see Chinese medicine on commercials? If the medicine survives for many years then how did they conduct proper research and testing to see the results?
    Western Medicines are properly research and have better labs.
    Uhh first of all Im Chinese so I see this stuff on commercials. You will never see a chinese medicine ad on NBC right?? And we do tests too!!> its not like here drink this and die. WE TEST THEM!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    well i asked you to explain but you did not elaborate the facts. also im naab


    i still choose western medicine. i mean the WHO is based on western countries, asia only gave us SARS and bridflu.

    Id rather trust the west. theres a chinese clinic near me but i wouldnt want to go near it.

    based on what i know about chinese medicine id rather go see a conventional doctor.
    We had SARs but we ended it now there is no more SARs. Bird flu is still a problem but not all the diseases come from asia>_>

    Quote Originally Posted by Espada1 View Post
    There are numerous sources that Chinese medicines uses a lot of animal product too. Like for example: rhinoceros horn, shark fin, bear bile.
    A lot of the animals that are used in Chinese medicines are endangered.
    rhinoceros horn.....really....they had rhino's in china....no way...

    Even if they did then we are no endangering animal speicies any more!! The shark fin is actually great for your health but now ppl are killing less sharks! Bear bile not sure about it.....

    Chinese medicine tastes bad but the effects are great. Westeren medicine doesnt taste bad but has really bad side effects

    I rather choose both. A little of Chinese and westeren medicine :3

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