Reputation: 100
Horsecock.
I hate how religion still rules everything. He was COMPLETELY within appropriate boundaries and should not have gotten in trouble at all. Stuff like this gives religion a bad name and makes everyone who believes in something out to be a complete crybaby *****...
Complete horsecock...
Reputation: 492
Usually, I'd go on the side of the school in cases like this, but he seems very intelligent and stands by his opinion greatly. That principal ftl.
Reputation: 447
I think he was within his rights to do that.
I mean, sure it's provocative but, that's the whole point.
And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear.
You shout and no one seems to hear.
Reputation: 13
**** them. Religion is religion, nothing more. People don't have the right to debase other people just because they believe in the Bible. Hell, the people who believe in religion and a God are the ones who are going to laugh when they die, go to heaven, and leave everyone else to rot in hell.
Reputation: 24
where was this located i would like to show that school a piece of my mind
maybe a part of my left cerebrum where anger is stored
i would tear them to pieces because he has every right
i got suspended for something close to this
i was talking about how the bible was nonsence and how we are all free to think for ourselves
only problem was it was during my confirmation where i was asked to present a speach on gods importance in our lives
Reputation: 677
Lord have mercy, for they don't know what they are doing.
Reputation: 22
YAY FOR NON-CONFORMISTS.
Tis all I have to say.
Reputation: 12
He expressed his opinion well within his rights, no one gets suspended for a week just for cussing.
Reputation: 467
Yes he was within his rights to do that as freedom of expression.
but to do it and not expect ANY kind of retaliation is ignorant in the extreme.
Purposefully destroying any precious religious text/symbol for demonstrative purposes is OBVIOUSLY going to offend some followers of that religion.
I dont care if all of you are going to get all bitchy and say "omg religion is so dumb, i want to do whatever i want" i would STILL get pissed off if something that meant alot to me was desecrted in that way.
If somebody from america came to my university, came in and gave a lecture about how shit britain was then burned the Union Jack at the end as an example i would have a problem with that, free speech or not.
its the same with an atheist burning or ripping up a bible.
to not expect any kind of retribution is so idiotic, so pathetically purile that i can hardly believe everyone is up in arms over this.
freedom of speech and expression works both ways you know. people have a right not to be belittled or made to feel stupid.
the speech itself was enough, although very course and blase it was enough. ripping a page from the bible wasnt needed. would you rip a page from the quaran in a school filled predominantly with muslims?
probably not, but then alot of people seem to have a problem with christians in america.
religion doesnt rule everything. american public schools dont even have morning prayer like we do in england.Originally Posted by Croix
Reputation: 12
Our Pledge of Allegiance still has "one nation, under God" in it.
Reputation: 10
He should've expected retaliation, just not from the school.
Reputation: 24
ummm he insulted people of a certain religion?
what? do u think ppl can get off scott free shouting at muslim students, calling them ignorant and ripping the qu'ran?
Reputation: 12
I have a report for English this week, I'll find out.
Reputation: 100
I disagree. I live here in the midwest and mostly everyones lives around here center around their church and their churches principals. If I were to do something like this I would get in much more trouble because I guarantee you everyone in my school would be in an uproar.
Reputation: 467
so you are saying that, religion rules everything because where you come from most people would get angry if you tore up a bible owing to the fact that they are mostly very religious.
hmmm. interesting conclusion.
a more proper conclusion would be that a larger proportion of the population in the midwest is religious, so it wouldnt be a good idea to pull a stunt like that where you come from.
just like it wouldnt be a could idea to walk through the palestine districts sporting an isreali flag.
religion doesnt rule everything.
Reputation: 13
Have some cormbradz, you deserve it. ♥
Reputation: 23
It doesn't but most people seem to lose sight of the matter and over rationalize to the point of absurdity...
Reputation: 137
Just to point something from Kyo's post.
The Supreme Court is a waste of Federal Budget, they may rule on something, but it doesn't become illegal to ignore their ruling, it simply becomes a matter of opinion, simply because they aren't a justice system, they're an overzealous group of public relations.
As for this suspension, it was wrong, the students should have excluded him, but he was well within his rights, and as a fellow atheist, this is what we call bullcrap where the school should be inspected immediatly.
Reputation: 467
i think the problems arose from students complaining TO the school. i think that basically forced their hand in the matter. if a student has a problem with another student then its up to the school to sort it out. obviously in this case they thought a suspension was an adequate punishment. if i was going to do something as provocative as this then id expect some backlash.
Reputation: 137
well if you think about it, this is in complete violation of all school codes, the students, or more like gods little gremlins forced the hand of the school, which should never happen D=<
if i was going to do something like this the most i'd expect is a few visits to the psychiatrist, not a damn suspension.
if anything now, kid should get a medal.
Reputation: 467
yeah the end result was quite harsh.
im guessing this was because the school has never had to deal with something like this before and the huge reaction by the students made the whole thing erupt.
still, at least that kid will be the "hey are you that kid that ripped up that bible?" kid for the rest of his school days.
i went to school with one of the students who got arrested and moved schools for sending death threats to his teacher. he was a really nice guy.
Reputation: 137
holy crap, that used to be me when i was 13, except i never got arrested or moved schools, i just scared the shit out of the teachers and punched through a door.
oh happy days.
i swear im normal now
*shakes romp*
Reputation: 10
I disagree with him. I'm athiest and I think that no ones religion should be bashed like that. All the christians in my school are like. "Ha jeffs going to hell," "Hey guess what ****er? I don't care!" I dislike some christians because everytime I bring out my opinion on christianity they go. "SO WAT I R BELIV IN BIBLE ATLEST I NOT GONG 2 HELL!" But I respect their religion because I believe the bible teaches people to behave. I don't believe in jesus or god though.
Reputation: 12
I don't think this 'event' is as much about religious bashing as the right to have freedom of speech. Whether you agree with him or not, he still doesn't deserve to get in ANY trouble.
Reputation: 15
Did they just quote a christian cursing? Isn't that against the bible?
That is why I don't like religion, they are all so hypocrit. Most of them only use the things of the religion that is usefull to THEM.
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