first of for those who say racing game this and racing game that. this isn't a racing game or racing that, it's a driving simulator. and i prefer the gran turismo series because it's JDM made by japanese people, always quality at it's finest. although forza series is good too, but i don't think a chevy/ford can compare to a honda/toyota. and yeah for the one who said PGR above, don't even compare PGR to GT or Forza. it's like comparing a rubber pizza to a real pizza. rubber pizzas are made to play with, their not realistic enough to eat them, but pizzas are real so you can eat them and you got to take your time and all and you eat real pizza more seriously because it gives you energy and you got to eat to survive. just like in a racing game like PGR where you drive around spinning those corners, not taking so seriously, yet when you drive a driving simulator car in a driving simulator, you will most likely take your time to tackle those corners with minimal chance of understeer and oversteer yet maximize your cornering speed while entering and exiting.