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    Default Would you belive something that hasn't been proven to exist!?

    Does believing in something make it exist ?

    If you can't proof the existence of something does that mean it it does not exist ?

    Here is a small list of things that may exist of not, please explain why you do believe or not believe in, be free to add some items don't forget to explain why.

    * Magic
    * God
    * Ghost Whisperers
    * Witches
    * Reincarnation
    * Hell
    * Heaven
    * UFO
    * Ghosts
    * Elves
    * Fairies

    Please don't flame.

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    No one has proved that you exist, I don't believe in you.

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    4 words, Horton Hears a Who

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    The only things I believe in are evil and pain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    religion and faith are not based on the same things as folklore.
    Yes they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pan View Post
    Yes they are.
    religion and faith are based on a set of doctrines for living ones life to either result in greater fulfilment or some kind of reward. in todays world there are probably more people following religion for the reason of bettering themselves and leading a good life rather than solely for getting a reward when you die. much of this will be down to the fact that peoples lives arent as crappy as they were 500 years ago when the only thing you had to look forward to was death.

    folklore is something different altogether. the bible may contain examples of folklore (the same as other holy texts) but its not the same as faith. folklore is based on popular memory, religion is based on doctrine.

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    Thats a weird question -.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by oOProphecyOo View Post
    THE BIG BANG!!! thats how our Universe was created. Believing in God because you don't know any other way it could have been done, seems pretty lame.....

    UFO's: theres more proof of them there is of your God. What physical proof does God have? a book? I think that is more of a folks tale than anything. Like I said in another post Religion is just another form of control.

    Living Organism's : We are actually very close to finding this on other planets. Microbial life is an organism Right? yeah I think so. How would God explain that?

    The Bible itself is made up of Folktales from past civilizations if you don't believe me theres an explanation here


    Part one


    Part 2


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    Why do Atheists always shove their reasoning upon the face of a religious person? Nobody gives a damn. Thats your opinion. Everyone thinks differently. It's like every topic about belief some Atheist has to appear and tell them all how it's fake or how they are right.

    We get it the first time. But, we don't care. We follow that belief untill we die and you will not change that. So believe in your atheism as we believe in our religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danuve View Post
    This topic has potential, I hope nobody picks up on it or maybe I do.
    You're my favorite poster. You just come out of no where and always say something smart that I think flies right over everyones head. You never get quoted (at least as far as I know) and almost no one addresses you. lol

    Also, noting the turn the topic has taken, atheism is a "religion" too, and you also WILL believe what they believe. Just like any religious kook that WILL encourage you on many different levels, some threateningly, to believe what they do. No matter who you are or what you believe in someone is out to persuade you to believe what they believe, end of story.

    And to address the OP, I believe only what matters to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalGuilt View Post
    Also, noting the turn the topic has taken, atheism is a "religion" too, and you also WILL believe what they believe. Just like any religious kook that WILL encourage you on many different levels, some threateningly, to believe what they do. No matter who you are or what you believe in someone is out to persuade you to believe what they believe, end of story.
    But this is a gaming forum. Theres a huge difference.

    It's like 70% of the people here are Atheists and keep trying to make others Atheists. The sad part of it is it actually works.

    I've no problem with Atheists at all. But, need you take it so far? I've yet to see a christian do the same on a gaming forum.

    It's like you can't be religious around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krivik View Post
    But this is a gaming forum. Theres a huge difference.

    It's like 70% of the people here are Atheists and keep trying to make others Atheists. The sad part of it is it actually works.

    I've no problem with Atheists at all. But, need you take it so far? I've yet to see a christian do the same on a gaming forum.

    It's like you can't be religious around here.
    And religion doesn't matter to me. I'm not gonna tell some Christian that their a moron for believing and I expect the same courtesy. That's significantly different from the typical atheist who gets their jollies from telling you you're a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbysmalGuilt View Post
    You're my favorite poster. You just come out of no where and always say something smart that I think flies right over everyones head. You never get quoted (at least as far as I know) and almost no one addresses you. lol

    Also, noting the turn the topic has taken, atheism is a "religion" too, and you also WILL believe what they believe. Just like any religious kook that WILL encourage you on many different levels, some threateningly, to believe what they do. No matter who you are or what you believe in someone is out to persuade you to believe what they believe, end of story.

    And to address the OP, I believe only what matters to me.
    I think I agree on that. But that's something I've just recently found out. Before I was like: '' Don't stereotype Muslims with Islamists'' but after I actualy found out what a lot of Muslim nations did to my people I got angry at the religion. Now I'm more passive, and I've found out that not everyone is like everybody else.

    None the less, about 1/3 of the World believes in something that hasn't truly been proven. Something or someone called God.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krivik View Post
    But this is a gaming forum. Theres a huge difference.

    It's like 70% of the people here are Atheists and keep trying to make others Atheists. The sad part of it is it actually works.

    I've no problem with Atheists at all. But, need you take it so far? I've yet to see a christian do the same on a gaming forum.

    It's like you can't be religious around here.
    Hehe. Don't get too complicated. It might aswell be the lack of fresh air that mamkes people think everyone else is stupid because they believe in something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krivik View Post
    Why do Atheists always shove their reasoning upon the face of a religious person?
    Because religious person shove their reasoning upon the face of an atheist too.
    We atheist stop when you stop forcing your religion into our mouth. like s****feeding

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    You didn't say zombies

    I'm gonna laugh when everybody is eaten by zombies and I will survive

    You didn't say aliens in general

    I'm gonna laugh when everybody is dead from aliens.

    Not everything is possible, but I'm very cautious, warewolfs? I don't use plastic s****s and forks.

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    I would believe in something that hasn't been proven, but it needs some sort of evidence.

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    No,hence why I don't believe in religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullmetal View Post
    No,hence why I don't believe in religion.
    Honestly, Religion is nothing to me either :\

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    lawl i love some of the reasoning people gave for god and whatnot. "Who created the universe then?" Look at history dood. EVERY time there has been some inexplicable event there has been a "god" or religious figure to explain it until science comes in and tells why. Volcanoes, Floods, Death, Birth, Disease. Seems silly now but 1000 years ago people worshipped gods of nature so that there would be a flood or a drought. Now we mock people whom still do this (see some tribes in uncivilized parts of the world) in church. They were MOCKING them in church. Just after we sang hymns to someone who cured the blind, sick and crippled, praised god almighty for this good life and protection.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ithian View Post
    lawl i love some of the reasoning people gave for god and whatnot. "Who created the universe then?" Look at history dood. EVERY time there has been some inexplicable event there has been a "god" or religious figure to explain it until science comes in and tells why. Volcanoes, Floods, Death, Birth, Disease. Seems silly now but 1000 years ago people worshipped gods of nature so that there would be a flood or a drought. Now we mock people whom still do this (see some tribes in uncivilized parts of the world) in church. They were MOCKING them in church. Just after we sang hymns to someone who cured the blind, sick and crippled, praised god almighty for this good life and protection.

    is that an argument to disprove god or is that you just bashing religion?

    if a mans crops are destroyed by drought what difference does it make to him if it was an act of god or the change in warm air currents which resulted in a temperature shift and lack of precipitation?

    the difference is this: if it was an act of god the man can use penance to prevent such an act occuring in the future, he can do something about it which makes him FEEL like he has made a difference. his sense of wellbeing is improved.

    if its just an act of chance (explained through scientific means) then the man is helpless, he is mercy to the whims of nature.

    religion in this example provides a means of SELF HELP. at the turn of the twentieth century people began to turn from the old ways of religion to the new fad of magic and the occult. there were rituals you could perform which would bring you a bountiful harvest or make your cows healthy. the point is people were seeking alternative ways to help themselves to feel that they actually had some control in their lives.

    if religion gives people a better sense of wellbeing and control, if it makes them feel they have a way to help themselves and others then thats all that matters.

    if mega atheists believe the world would be a better place with everyone walking around saying " i shit on your theory, its totally wrong, heres how it really works, heres the real reason behind it, you cant help yourself. modern science can tell you where you are wrong but it cant do shit about it. yeah your god doesnt exist and when you die nothing will happen, by the way good luck with your terminal cancer which modern science cant cure, yeah thats right we can shit all over your religion but we cant save your life, enjoy your slow death" well i dont want to be part of that world.

    believing in something isnt just about being right or wrong. it isnt about getting one over on your opponents... although alot of internet atheists think thats what its about.

    religion is about giving people hope and a faith in something which cant be broken, being religious doesnt mean you reject all science. having faith in something is (i feel personally) important. people who feel the need to prove themselves 100% correct and their opponents 100% wrong (on both sides) in my opinion are lacking something themselves. they attack that which they see as opposite to themselves because they dont like the idea that everyone else has something which they dont. (works for alot of other things too)

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    I believe in capital M Mysteries yes. Do I believe there is a way to sort through what is real and what isn't? Not on this world.

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    I believe in god.
    I believe in science.


    However,I don't belive in luck.I belive in percents and probability,but not luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthaz View Post
    I believe in god.
    I believe in science.


    However,I don't belive in luck.I belive in percents and probability,but not luck.
    luck has been described in the past as "when opportunity meets preparedness"

    now that i DO believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    luck has been described in the past as "when opportunity meets preparedness"

    now that i DO believe in.
    Well in THAT definition yes,I do.But not pure luck.

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    Although I do not believe in god, I'll take part in this. The evolution theory and the Big Bang theory are just theories. Theories are just set of assumptions or accepted facts that attempts to provide a rational explanation for a phenomena observed in the world. A theory can be changed once another experiment is accepted. Therefore, they are not facts!

    I do believe in the evolution theory, but I never considered it a fact.


    What I don't get is people saying they everything has to be created by something. So they gave me a reason that god has to be there to create the universe, the earth, humans, etc... But what created god? He didn't just magically appear out of nowhere.

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    Eh that was a half completed statement from me more of bashing religion than anything else. Was just saying this one day i went to church it showed our pastor in some remote part of africa going around and converting a bunch of people, then proceeded to mock their previous religions. I also notice a lot of other christians that do that and it's unbelievable that they would mock them when they are essentially the same way. The mention of the drought/flood praying or whatever was merely an example that we used to entirely rely on 'God' as the reason for why something happened. Yes belief gives you a sense of wellbeing but I believe that is only to cover up your own insecurities and fears. One such example is someone who goes to church because they are afraid of death and it's a last ditch effort to prolong your existence (through going to heaven). I know thats not everyone but there are still those people and they are the ones that make me hate religion. Many people worship something only because their parents did and thats how they were brought up / fear something / seek security from what they believe to be something higher.

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