WoW

[Sayas]

I played WoW for 3 years and can honestly say that it was the best game i ever played, but if i were you i would wait 1,5 month before the next expansion so you reach lvl 70 in time for the next expansion.

Pros:
1. Smooth Gameplay
2. Population
3. Raids
4. Arena PVP
5. Community
6. Wrath of the Lich King is coming soon

Cons:
1. The Burning Crusade
2. Wrath of the Lich king (new expansion) is coming soon, which means that
when you reach lvl 70 there's nothing to do that lasts for the next exp.
3. Leveling shouldn't be in the game, as it's just a pain in the ass to reach the actual game (end-game).

[Proxzor]

i want some of what you have been smoking

I didnt smoke anything, Can I have yours? Maybe runescape will have better graphics instead of bad..

[Professor Cena]

mmm,i think that allows no argument.the engine for all 3 games is ages ahead of WoW's. and no, 2moons relies on glow,indeed...but SOTNW and Requiem? no way
have you really played those on max? the difference is blatant.

Yea, I have played those on max, and they don't really impress me that much.
And SotNW don't rely on glow?
Here's a shot of SotNW without Glow on.
Everything else is maxed.



With glow on ( it's from 2404.org) :



Requiem from FZ.com :



And this is WoW on maxed



Looks alot better then both, imo.

(Couldn't find any high-quality shots, I'm afraid.)

[ArcDevil]

I didnt smoke anything, Can I have yours? Maybe runescape will have better graphics instead of bad..

maybe we have travelled 4 years to the past when WoW's gfx were great and noone ever heard of requiem,perfect world or granado espada,havent we?

theres nothing worse than a fanboi...

edit: woah Candyholic,im speechless. if you ask me that WoW ss looks like crap compared to any of those other ss. in fact im sure you could have picked a better WoW ss.it would be moot anyway,but really...woah
and btw, SOTNW/Requiem actually looks way better in my PC

[Thas]

I gotta agree with Candy, SotNW is nothing but glowcrap.

Even if normal WoW doesnt, WotLK just beats the crap outta SotNW graphics.




But this is, yet again, just my opinion.

[hyarume]

On the gfx discussion, i think FFXI looks alot nicer than wow

its released in 2001, but the gfx still own

Lineage 2, sotnw, and even Domo, own wow

In what way do SotNW, PW and Requiem have better graphics than WoW?
They're even updating the graphics for WotLK.
SotNW and PW both rely on "Glow" for making their game look better. Remove the Glow and what do you get? A shit fugly game, that's what.
Requiem.
It has better graphics than both of them, but still not sure if it's better then WoW.

@ DneL :
Horde and Alliance are the factions in the game.
You choose which one you belong to in the beginning.
Horde = looks more "ebul" then Alliance, and most people don't choose them just 'cus how "fugly" they are ( that's why Blizz added belves) and it usually has a better community then Alliance.
Alliance = "oh hai i r nelf lul i dance nikked in if für goldz" pretty much sums it up. ; ;
Full of ******ed kids.

Eh, the story is just there.
You usually get to know more as you progress through some of the more major Quests.

Lol, i played sotnw without glow, infact it looks better.. imo, but a good glow owns

And

Enivoirment, char detail Everything in Gfx owns wow

[Mordar]

@ArcDevil; In what way are the classes un-balanced..?

I'll answer this one, the fact you have to set up an specific talent spec to actually be viable on arena clearly shows how unbalanced the pvp is, you CAN'T play the spec you want an be viable or succes in an arena environment against groups and teams that play the "cookie cutter" build of the month, for example, resto druid/warrior, Resto druid/rogue....well, anything involving resto druid, so far I haven't seen an I don't know, feral druid/enhancement shaman team making past any bracket, showing that you can't play what you like, you HAVE to play what blizzard and the whole class dev departement hasn't screwed up or nerfed yet or the spec they make you play for pvp because "hey, that's the pvp talent tree, suck it up or go PvE jackass", take for example hunters, enhancement shamans, holy paladins (no real "buff" in the past few years, literally and retribution are a so-so, and they INTEND to make holy paladins the "end-game" viable tree spec, and see how much they get f'ed up by rogues, MS warriors and the like), Feral druids, etc etc etc


anyway

pros

Great game
Polished low requirement graphics
Lots of Classes
Lots of Races and customization
Bunch of features from other mmorpg joined together and melted together in a good effective, easy to use way
Lots of people
Great End-game and content (crafting, smithing, blah blah blah)

Cons

Community full of ******s (few people that know what they are doing)
Carebeish Overall content
Mediocre PVP
Class imbalances
End-Game grind like hell (that's a so-so, the grind presents itself at higher levels and no early levels which its good)
******ed Dev Department
If you are an avid fan of Warcraft lore, you will hate how much the stupid Devs screwed everything involving it
Lots of stupid fanboys who thinks WoW it's the best game ever
Whiners and QQers, lots of them, and I mean LOTS of them

[DneL]

Guys.. everybody has their own opinions lets stay on topic because i dont want this thread to get locked

Let people believe what they want you are gaining nothing on this debate

[Proxzor]

i just said what are you smoking when you said only AoC beats WoW. didnt say anything about it was bad.
and its not editting,its doubleposting.

point proved. you are a first class idiot

AoC beats WoW in graphics so whats your point really? That im talking facts? Still want to fail more?

[hyarume]

never said WoW gfx were bad,they are actually very good, and more so considering they are 4 years old.
but still im my opinion they fall short compared to the 3 games i mentioned

and those games are f2p,mind you. their budget was astronomically smaller.



nope,you are one of the scarce 1% that cant be reasoned with, and are adamant to reject anyone's opinions. a fanboi of the worst class.

Imo a high budget game must last L2,ffxi, and i think GW do it well

FFXI was released in 2001 and still owns 90%, of couse the WotG and ToAU areas look a bit hotter, but even the starting areas, etc.. they own wow, before there was wow

[Proxzor]

Oh yay, I came just in time to watch people argue over useless crap.

At the end of the day WoW's graphics may be horrific, but all the really matters is gameplay. Which still sucks actually.

Now, I wait while fanboy's fingers flail on the keyboard as drools spews from their mouth at the thought that people should have such an opinion.

Nice discrimination, Well you go back to your crappy FFXI with the worste gameplay rated ever.
Gay FFXI fanboi

[ArcDevil]

AoC beats WoW in graphics so whats your point really? That im talking facts? Still want to fail more?

guess you are just toying me. noone who has the brain to switch on a pc and use a keyboard can be so blatantly subnormal. its just impossible.

did you mind the only?
do i have to quote your original post?

[hyarume]

Who rates that?

86% says the reviews or so.

Anyways

Its balanced
Has stories
is a REAL mmo, not a single player in an mmo world


its fun

[Thas]

Oh yay, I came just in time to watch people argue over useless crap.

At the end of the day WoW's graphics may be horrific, but all the really matters is gameplay. Which still sucks actually.

Now, I wait while fanboy's fingers flail on the keyboard as drools spews from their mouth at the thought that people should have such an opinion.

Wewt, its your opinion and I respect that. Btw one thing I wanna know, hyarume, how long did you play WoW?

[hyarume]

70 -60 and 55 lvls..

[Thas]

Meh, how were you able to play it for so long if you hate it so much?

[DivineRevival]

You cant discuss :< your playing nightbane

Oh, yes, I also play FEAR, SoTNW, played DOMO, played WoW, I can discuss if I want ...

[hyarume]

Tho wow is a fun game to be silly with friends, it fails the rest of the game

[Cingal]

No cause your just a simple WoW hater that playes a worse game but hey you want believe that anyway cause your a fanboi, but its a fact too bad you wont believe it.

I'm sorry, it seems the concept of opinions was wasted on you when you were younger, in which case, I'll explain it to you.

In this world, there are people who like something and people who will not like something.

If you like something, you must therefore presume there is an equal and opposite opinion to your opinion, just as you hold your opinion so closely, a person of opposite will hold it as closely.

You cannot say or do anything to change these people's mind and your opinion is just one in billions, each completely pointless except unto it's self.

I hope you learnt something.

[hyarume]

Want wow, play it free, why? it has bugs, but a real community..

still sucks tho but just less imo

[Proxzor]

Hey Cingal is no fanboi, he always posts his personal opinions about anygame.

same goes for me.. but still im called a WoW fanboi =/

[ArcDevil]

Cingal,if u want to have a good laught,read all posts between Proxzor and me
i warn you,your eyes might bleed afterwards.

[hyarume]

I'm sorry, it seems the concept of opinions was wasted on you when you were younger, in which case, I'll explain it to you.

In this world, there are people who like something and people who will not like something.

If you like something, you must therefore presume there is an equal and opposite opinion to your opinion, just as you hold your opinion so closely, a person of opposite will hold it as closely.

You cannot say or do anything to change these people's mind and your opinion is just one in billions, each completely pointless except unto it's self.

I hope you learnt something.

I learned some words, i'm thinking of using

[Thas]

WoW's worst flaw is indeed the fact that there are:

1. Players that dont understand english. Result? Needing on everything in instances.
2. A-holes. And I mean those who call you noob when you ask a question etc.

And ye I could go on and on. The community is really bad on some servers. Im glad that it isnt like that on every server though.

EDIT: Oh and ye, I forgot the fanboys who say that every other mmorpg is shit. Still.. Its my favourite mmorpg.

[hyarume]

Cingal,if u want to have a good laught,read all posts between Proxzor and me
i warn you,your eyes might bleed afterwards.

Its epic ><